anyone use triggers on drums??

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punk rock @$$hole
Member Since: Feb 29, 2004

from what i can tell most people on this board do not record metal. (black,death,sludge,grind,hardcore,etc.)
but.....
most extreme metal bands use triggers on their drums mostly for just the bass drum.
i realize this may clean up the sound but it always sounds so fake, i hate it. the rest of the kit sounds great full of life and reverb flailing everywhere but this plastic artificial clicking noise that is supposed to be a bass drum

i notice this on more and more metal cd's lately and it seems that the local bands want that sound even though they cant afford or dont use triggers live which sucks because then the band will never sound like the cd

i for one dont like it and then all the metal drummers come running to the defense of triggers

all i ever say is john bohnam never used no stinkin triggers-------your thoughts????

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 08, 2004 11:19 pm

Well, Bonzo never had the chance to use triggers. I would guess he would have if they had been available while he was alive. As far as sounding crap. Well maybe you, or whomever need to try using a non-crap sample or drum synth. I use an Alesis DM5 as well as many drum softsynths with my trigger pads and dont get any complaints.

It is all a matter of giving a bit of attention to what samples you use or drum synths used to get a good sound. Pick a crap sound and you get a crap sound, pick a good sound and you get a good sound. Easy as that.

Truth be told, triggers allow a whole wide range of versatility. used wisely they are great, used unwisely and they aint so great.

Its all up to the user, or enginer!

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Apr 09, 2004 12:12 pm

how do these triggers work? i don't know if i've noticed this.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Member
Since: May 11, 2002


Apr 09, 2004 03:53 pm

basically there is an audio to midi converter that takes a sound... usually an impact signal from a pad and runs it into the converter which assigns a midi not to it which sends that midi not to a midi device which plays the sound assigned to that midi note... These arn't necessarily midi sounds because you can have the midi note trigger a sampler with a prerecorded sound clip.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 12, 2004 10:41 pm

Yup, zek had it pretty well. It is really just a pressure sensative pad or device. In the case of those used on real drums it is attached to the rim and touches the head of the drum. When the drum is smacked it picks up the velocity of the signal and tranmits it to a trigger input on a drum module or synth and then that in turn relates it to either the sequancer or the synth/sampler as a midi note and thus you get the sound you choose. I use drum trigger pads instead of playing it out on my keyboard, although I still prgram most on the keyboard. The drum pads let you play bit more realisticly.

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