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Posted on Feb 27, 2004 07:06 pm
Oblivion
Member Since: Feb 27, 2004
I just got SONAR 3 and the M-Audio Audiophile card.. they record audio beautifully, but I can't hear any MIDI. I still have my SoundBlaster Live! installed, but that doesnt seem to work either, when i set it to playback MIDI. I'm not using any external MIDI devices and the speakers are plugged on the audiophile's out ports. (it did seem to work when they were plugged the SB Live!'s)
any help will be greatly apreciated.
thanks in advance.
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Feb 27, 2004 07:54 pm I don't know much about MIDI at all, but the reason why you don't hear it is because the MIDI is coming from the SB Live, not the Audiophile. The SB is where the sound is actually being created, so it's not going back into the computer from the card, only to the card's output. If you could merge the outputs of the two cards through a mixer or adaptor set up, then you could here both. However, there are other ways to create MIDI sound via software reather than hardware... I just don't know how it works. Someone else should be able to give you an explanation.
Feb 28, 2004 07:57 am Thanks. but, would I need a MIDI cable?
I have tried plugging the SB Live's line out port into the mixer.. but again it didnt seem to work..
Feb 28, 2004 08:07 am No, a MIDI cable shouldn't be necessary. But you do say that the SB still seems to work by itself? Check how your mixer channel is being routed.
Feb 28, 2004 08:47 am OK, well, I really only use MIDI for virtual instruments, VSTi or DXi type of stuff, and for that situation the sounds get shipped out of whatever your wave-out is assigned as. If you are using MIDI sounds from the SB, then you need to use the SB outs. You will need to go in to Sonar's devices options and make sure you are assigning the SB as the MIDI out for those tracks. And check in the Windows Control Panel and make sure the SB is assigned as the primary MIDI device, since the Audiophile has no MIDI sounds, just a passthru port.
Noize is the MIDI geek around here, plus he uses a Delta 44, an SB card of some sort and Sonar...so he could probably be of assistance when he sees the thread.
Feb 29, 2004 10:12 am dB Masters - "You will need to go in to Sonar's devices options and make sure you are assigning the SB as the MIDI out for those tracks. And check in the Windows Control Panel and make sure the SB is assigned as the primary MIDI device, since the Audiophile has no MIDI sounds, just a passthru port."
I did try that, but still no sound. and i am using midi for VSTi's and DXi's but i have to assign the SBL's wave out, so the resolution and sample rate decreases a lot. and i still hear pops and clicks...
as for what PorpoiseMuffins said. I kinda thought that if plugged SBL's MIDI out to AP's MIDI in with a midi cable, it could work, but i havent tried that,
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Feb 29, 2004 10:30 am midi confuses the hell out of me...but im getting it slowly.
i realise this doesnt help...
Feb 29, 2004 11:44 am If you are only using MIDI for vitual instruments, you should be able to add the instrument via the "insert" menu in the menubar and the default settings should work fine, they akways do for me, just make surethe wave track is set to go out the Audiophile.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 01, 2004 09:13 pm Oblivion, as dB stated in Sonar use the Synth rack view and assign the synth you want there. This should automatically assign the audio to the Delta outputs. Make sure if you havent done so allready that you have the Delta drivers all selected for ASIO for your audio outputs. Connecting a midi cable to the SB card will do nothing for you at all. It is the internal midi routeing that is sending the notes to the softsynth's. And if you use the synth rack in Sonar that will take care of assigning everything for you.
Mar 06, 2004 07:48 am Thanks a lot.. the synths are working properly now.. how ever.. i still cant hear any MIDI sounds (in sonar or whatever midi player).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 06, 2004 12:23 pm That is because the general midi sounds come from the Sound Blaster and not the Delta audio outputs. You may need to split them or use the the Edirol Virtual Sound Canvas which came with Sonar. This is a general midi virtual synth and will actually have better sounds then the SB card does. There is also a synth form Power FX that is called Dyad DXi that uses sound fonts and will use the GM type sound font bank if needed.
Mar 07, 2004 05:25 pm Edirol's VSC works fine in SONAR. however, no sound outside. what sould i do|?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 07, 2004 08:14 pm OK, I guess I am confused. If you say you are getting VSC to work fine in Sonar. What exactly do you mean by no sound outside? I am puzzled by the statement.
And I guess even more when you say you cant hear any MIDI sounds. What exactly cant you hear?
Mar 09, 2004 08:50 am sorry. I meant I can't hear any MIDI sound if i play '.mid' file in winamp (or anything that can playback .mid files), for instance.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 09, 2004 08:39 pm That is because the SB card is no longer hooked up to your speakers I am guessing. You might want to set up so you can alternate you monitering speakers from one card to the other if you need to play midi files that are going to use the general midi synth on the sound blaster.
