Jan 20, 2004 09:40 pm Let me have a look at some things, I know I have seen one that is purely written for vocal stuff. I will post back here soon.
And I will ask this just for my sake, when you say vocals sound nice, what exactly do you mean?
vocal processor plugin?
Posted on Jan 20, 2004 06:00 pm
fortymile
Member Since: Jan 18, 2003
anyone know of a plugin devoted to making your vocals sound nice? i'd like to check out something designed for that explicit purpose. my vocals need lots of help.
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Jan 20, 2004 09:40 pm Let me have a look at some things, I know I have seen one that is purely written for vocal stuff. I will post back here soon.
And I will ask this just for my sake, when you say vocals sound nice, what exactly do you mean?
Jan 20, 2004 09:54 pm heh, i think he's looking for a killer parametric EQ and some high quality reverbs. ;O)
Jan 20, 2004 10:09 pm or... MAGNETO. Only thing I use on vocals anymore plugin wise is Ozone and Magneto
Jan 20, 2004 10:32 pm I have switched from Magneto to the PSP Vintage Warmer, it is Magneto to the tenth degree and then some.
Jan 20, 2004 11:52 pm Yeah, I think you need to clarify exactly what "sound nice" constitutes. :)
I use everything but the kitchen sink on my vocals. <G> ...hmmm kitchen sink...
Dan
Jan 21, 2004 12:24 am something with a lot of presets.
since i cant seem to make things sound right yet.
Jan 21, 2004 02:39 am Well it so much depends on the sound your going after. I went to your NWR site to hear a sample of your voice, but you don't have anything posted with u singing. <G>
Maybe post who you'd like to sound like (effect wise) to give everyone an idea of where you want to go. :) (oh and for me it better be fairly main stream, pre-2000, if ya want me to recognize any of them LOL)
btw, black rock, Rocks! Needs vocals though <G>
Dan
Jan 21, 2004 12:03 pm well thanks dan. i'm thinking of speeding that song up. and changing the verse, definitely, as the verse mood is unidentifiable.
i guess i'm not looking for parametric eq's and stuff (have some of those already). more for something like a suite of vocal patches with effects. i have no idea if such a thing exists as software. but for example, my old br-8 recorder had a few vocal patches built into it, and some of them produced nice, compressed vocals with effects, no tweaking needed. i like presets because they give me a starting place.
Jan 21, 2004 07:42 pm forty, I can think of a couple of pieces of external hardware that are designed for vocal use, but as of yet have not seen pluggin versions of said stuff. I will keep an eye out however for anything that might suit that need.
Jan 21, 2004 10:06 pm I'm really looking for something along the same lines as forty -- something with some presets to do all of those things EQ, multi-band compression, warming, tape saturation, all in the right order, and all pre-tweaked. I figure if I see several vocal presets, each with a different objectives, eg male, female, lead, backup, warmer, more presence, them I might learn from that what parameters effect what, and what constitutes just-right, vs over-kill or under-kill.
Jan 21, 2004 10:08 pm So Loki,
Do you run Ozone and magneto both on individual vocal tracks? and if so, in what order? Any particular presets you especially like in Ozone?
Jan 21, 2004 10:51 pm Ozone 3 has presets for vocals (among ton's of others), though I don't use Ozone on indivdual tracks usually.
It's really not that well suited IMO for individual track effects because it's pretty heavy in the resource usage department. I haven't really compared how it stacks up against using individual effects in multi-tracking, on a case by case basis it might be more efficient if you used most of it's effects vs the same # separate.
Maybe I'll do a test with it and see how it performs. I'll report back my findings. :)
Dan
Jan 22, 2004 10:58 pm Yeah, lots of good info here I appreciate it too. I recently bought Ozone & Vintage Warmer. I whipped Ozone on a couple of songs I recorded of the 3 piece band I've been working with. I used the preset: CD Master with Excitener & Widener. The results were nothing short of amazing, IMO. The loudness came way up, increased fullness & punch, and better sizzle on guitar.
So the next couple of improvements I would like to achieve are:
1) Warm up the vocals a bit more -- these are female vocals and sound a bit thin and peaky in the high end. I've already got some light H/W compression on them and used EQ to notch out some offensive frequencies around 7khz. I'm hoping I can use Ozone and/or VW on the vocal tracks to thicken them up a bit. Any recommendations on which tool / setting to use?
2) Warm up the overall mix. I'm already running the final mix throuh Ozone (CD Master / Excitener / Widener / Mastering reverb). If I was going to use Vintage Warmer in the effects chain, with some tape saturation, would it be best to tack it on the end of the whole Ozone suite?
Jan 23, 2004 04:16 pm I use vintage Warmer on vocals as well as guitars and drums and I guess everythig that might need it. It is very adjustable but does take some practice. It can be very subtle or out right cranky whatever the need. Remember you can get at more control on the back. It has two sides accesable by the software.
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