Aug 24, 2003 07:51 am i'll have a listen in a minute...just downloading messenger so i can try my webcam.
db : does trillian pro have that capability?
Finally!! New Song - took 2 months to finish this one
Posted on Aug 23, 2003 10:57 pm
TheTincanbug
sloppy dice, drinks twice
Member Since: Aug 05, 2003
Ok guys... My new tune is finally, finally done. It's called "Car Mojo (Chunk of Wood)". I'm really happy with how this turned out. (so far) This one has hand drums, classical, steel string, and electric guitars, bass, kalimba, and vocals. I would probably call the style fusion rock. No reverb was used, I like the tight, close feeling of a song w/o verb.
I'm interested to know what you guys think of the mix/mastering, etc. I think my weak point is mixing, would like to improve that skill.
www.paganwisdomseries.com/car_mojo_rough_mix.mp3
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Aug 24, 2003 07:51 am i'll have a listen in a minute...just downloading messenger so i can try my webcam.
db : does trillian pro have that capability?
Aug 24, 2003 10:25 am tweaked the mix a litle. uploaded a fresh version.
Aug 24, 2003 10:48 am oh yeah, forgot to listen! ill go download it...
Aug 24, 2003 10:53 am wow - mad!
thats really cool, from the weird badaba intro bit to the verses its really fresh sounding and funky.
class act man!
Aug 24, 2003 11:00 am Yes, it does, and in the 2.0 public beta it actually works...or so I have heard from users, I never use webcam myself.
Aug 24, 2003 11:12 am hmmm, might look into that then...cheers!
Aug 24, 2003 07:46 pm what is delivering all that low end bass its really ******* awsome. are there any samples in this? i find this peice to be geniues
Aug 24, 2003 07:49 pm do you have a full cd done. if you did i would look into buy it...and this is coming from somebody that lives off nu metal....i really like this altho its not my style
Aug 24, 2003 08:47 pm Wow, thanks for the compliment! No, I don't have a cd done, I don't even have a band. Actually there are no samples in the song, all instruments are organic and played by me. I'm glad you liked it!
Aug 25, 2003 07:34 am brock, I just realized that I didn't answer your other question... The bassy instruments are the electric bass (Peavey solid body), djembe, and a rhythym guitar track. I just heard the mix on my car stereo on the way to work, and actually that bass is turned up way too high. It sounded very different on my computer speakers! I guess my next step will be to turn that down.
I welcome any and all comments about the song, especially re: the mix. Thanks!
Aug 25, 2003 08:31 am Ya, pretty bass-heavy, I like the mix of all the voices, chatter and laughter in the beginning, very floydy...only more upbeat sounding :-)
Aug 25, 2003 01:27 pm Interesting song there Tincan. I agree the bass is probably a little too heavy but it's a good mix. :)
Aug 27, 2003 03:42 am Tincan,
Great tune! Very organic sounding! It reminds me os something Primus would do! Which is a good thing! I love Primus!
You have a good blend in the mix... a little bass heavy as mentioned before...
Here is what I would try:
Try to make all the instruments Taller in the soundscape... don't be afraid to boost highs on the bass(is that chorus I hear on the bass? cool sound)
Then cut some eq holes for your voice to sit in the mix well... Try to use the entire frequency range for your tune.(this may sound strange at first but its better to have things there and cut then not have them there and try to boost).
Here is eq tip: When you want to boost something in the mix cut and area oppistie of the boost. (ie say you want more sparkle on the acoustic guitar... cut lo-end frequencies and viola' more sparkle on the acoustic... you may already know this but there are some technical reasons why this is a good idea... and it is something that took my a while to learn...(when I wanted more bottom I'd just add more bottom...not pull down some high, when I first started)
Shred
Oct 15, 2003 01:08 am So, I finally downloaded and listened to this one. I guess it might be a bit bass heavy, but I like the sound that it gives. I do agree with dB from a different thread that you could use a limiter to get the overall sound up.
But overall, this is a really cool song. I'm a big fan of the electric guitar solo, and overall of all the instrumental parts. I'm surprised to hear that there is no reverb. I thought for sure on the accoustic guitar before you start the second verse.
I notice that your songs all have the hand drums. I have a pair of congos, that I've tried to mic, but I don't get good results. How do you mic those things. Are you using any others aside from the djembe?
Oct 15, 2003 07:28 am Thanks, coolo. :)
I used my djembe and bongos in this one. I mic them both pretty much the same way - I use two mics, an sm57 on top pointing down directly at the head about 6-7 inches above, and a cheapo v-tech that I use pointing up from the bottom, again about 7 inches away. I mix them into one track and adjust the volumes to taste.
In addition to the drums, most of the way through the song I also have a vocal rhythym track -
boom shicka boom, shicka boom shicka boom
boom shicka boom, boom boom shicka boom
Nope, no verb. The acoustics have that sound because there are about 5 acoustic tracks playing in unison at the acoustic break. Classical and steel strings.
Oct 15, 2003 01:37 pm interesting. I was pretty sure the shicka was vocal, but then I thought maybe a maraca or something. Thanks for the pointer. I tried once to mic from the bottom of the congo, but I got this wierd electric drum sounding effect. Possibly useful, but not what I was looking for. I think I needed to place the mic further away.
Oct 15, 2003 01:45 pm coolo, it might be that the sound pressure produced was too much for the type of mic you you used. Just a guess. Or maybe the input level was overdriven by a tad, creating distortion? hmm.
Oct 16, 2003 06:46 am boy oh boy, booom shicka booom shicaka, its my third listen now at the office. this is just great. i dont have a bad thing to say. im speechless. this should be an hrc classic. you should get an award for originality on this. it just makes me smile. what a great road song. my head's bopping, boom shicha. awesome.
Oct 16, 2003 07:28 am You guys... I don't know what to say. Praise from other songwriters is the most meaningful reward an artist could hope for. Too bad I'm stuck at work, because reading all these positive comments makes me want to sequester myself away in the studio for 3 days straight. :)
Oct 16, 2003 07:38 am im with ya- got a new pc coming friday so friday and sat are gonna be pc geek days (and nights) no music for me till i get everything put back together. on the high side ill have a much better system come sunday- and hopefully itll make better music.
oh, and here's a little trick i have-
you mentioned that your recording sounded diffrent when you put it in a cd player vice your computer. take the song, play it on your pc- then play it on a cd player elsewhere (stereo or car or something in a diffrent room at least). try to remember exactly what it sounded like, then back to the pc room. walk around in the room with the song playing on your pc. if youre lucky you'll find a spot near a corner- behind a couch or something that sounds very much like the cd player did. then use that spot all the time for your mixing. its not the best way but it works pretty good for me.
Oct 16, 2003 07:48 am I would also add, in light of the recent thread regarding lyrics, that the lyrics of Car Mojo don't mean a goddamned thing except for "gee, I'm glad I didn't hit that big-*** chunk of wood bouncing around in the middle of the highway." hahahaha
There's a chunk of wood that's sitting in the middle of the road
Like a friend I never got the chance to meet,
never got the chance to know know know
Chunk of wood, chunk of wood, would you tear out my tires?
And leave me crying on the side of the road?
Chunk of wood, chunk of wood, would you leave me crying?
Tear out my tires, leave me crying on the side of the road?
Oct 16, 2003 08:08 am that the lyrics of Car Mojo don't mean a goddamned thing except for "gee, I'm glad I didn't hit that big-*** chunk of wood bouncing around in the middle of the highway." hahahaha
oh ya- gotta love it
just listend a couple more times. its a big hit here at the office. boom chicka boom
Oct 16, 2003 12:55 pm I was thinking about it yesterday, and the lyrics kinda remind me of that Louden Wainright classic "Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road"
and it's stinking to high heaven.
Oct 31, 2003 01:28 pm wow man, i just listened to car mojo and i dug it a lot. i wish i could play guitar solos as cleanly/as well/as smooth and fast as you. you must be a grateful dead fan...i can hear the mixolydian in there. i also love the connecting-section at 3:36 or so. (if i got the math right...my player counts backward.) anyway, good song. and great subject matter. finally someone wrote a song about that danged chunk of wood that's always in the road.
Oct 31, 2003 02:11 pm You are too kind, sir.
"i wish i could play guitar solos as cleanly/as well/as smooth and fast as you."
Hell, 40, that's what I say when I listen to shredfit's fingers-like-a-blur stuff. :) I don't think I'm particularly fast... the solo was at least the 35th take and I was warmed up to the point of being wired. but thanks much.
"you must be a grateful dead fan..."
Yup, good guess! You can hear the Dead in that song? Wow, I wouldn't have placed it... I do consider them an influence though. Good ear, bud. Yeah, American Beauty is one of my all-time favorite albums...
I give my current instrumental song "Wiggle and Twitch" about another 3 weeks in the oven, and then I oughta have something new. It's slow going, since I'm composing it as I record, which is new for me. My weekend mornings keep getting pre-empted by life, so there goes all my recording time.... c'est la vie :)
Oct 31, 2003 02:16 pm is anyone NOT a dead fan?
Perish the tought! Long Live Jerry!
Oct 31, 2003 07:28 pm best dead songs: (i am in love with these, i consider them to be thier absolute best):
1. victim or the crime
2. picasso moon
3. built to last
all from the same album. i don't really know where to dig in their catalog to find things that compare to these gems.
yes tin, the dead influence is apparent to me. being the scale that pretty much defines the dead, i figured it was a good guess you were a fan.
i look forward to hearing your next one, man. i wish i had time to listen to everyone's stuff here, but this computer is not prime for music listening, so i just save stuff and get to them at opportune moments. so, my apologies to everyone whose stuff i seem to be overlooking. i care! and i'll hear everyone's stuff eventually. so much talent on this board.
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Oct 31, 2003 07:30 pm hey is the song down? i cant get it! again!
Oct 31, 2003 07:56 pm dB's "best dead songs" that come to mind at the moment:
- West LA Fadeaway
- Sugar Magnolia
- Hell in a Bucket
- any take of any song from the "Dick's Picks" collection, which is a huge collection of tracks, outtakes and random jams recorded by Dick Youngblood (I think that was his name) a dead sound engineer for a long time...
Nov 08, 2003 09:54 pm I think it is very different I like it Cool Man keep up the great work. the more I hear it the more it reminds me of BECK. Master of cut and paste king!!!
GutterSlinger
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