panning problem

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I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member Since: Apr 12, 2003

Ok..for some reason my panning in my home studio isn't working. I'm still learning about my Delta 66, so I might have the settings wrong. I wrote cakewalk to ask for some assistance. I did what they said, they told me to download the newest driver to Delta...I did that. Told me to delete certain files in cakewalk program...I did that. And a few other things. But still the same problem. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Thanks Guys.

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Since: Dec 30, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 10:17 am

Yes, we know the back ground - but what panning problem are you having? :)

we're not psychic :D

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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 10:23 am

some of us are psychotic though...

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 10:45 am

we'll gladly help when we know what's going on. but, did you check the little pan controls in the Delta control panel? Each channel has it's own pan.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 27, 2003 11:09 am

Hey, I'm disappointed. I thought I was writing the psychic help line. ::just kidding:: Sorry jues...don't beat me up dude. I don't intentionly do that. What can I say, I'm absent minded and scatterbrained. No seriously. The problem I'm having with the panning is: when I pan right or left, you can see half of the vu meter go down, like part of the signal is panning. You can hear the volume decrease a little like it's trying to pan but it don't fully pan. If theres any other info you need, don't hesitate to ask. I'm really sorry guy's for not writing the panning problem. My mind tends to forget things when I have a 1000 things going on.

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 12:36 pm

i'm still a little lost. the vu meter in... the delta control panel or maybe your recording software? can you actually hear the pan occuring left and right at all (because you make it sound like it's occuring *a little* but not completely).

tell us exactly what you're trying to do and what's happening instead. And be sure to tell us where this happenig too (mixer, delta control panel, cakewalk, etc)

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 27, 2003 05:11 pm

Okay, let me try again to explain this. I want to pan (on playback). As I pan it, I can see in my Home Studio vu meter that it seems to split the channel and instead of fully panning ...the volume and quality of what I'm hearing cuts in half. I don't know how to correct this, maybe its a wrong setting with the Delta? I am using the pan vu on the Home Studio, which I did state in my first letter about this, maybe I wasn't clear enough... I really don't know how to be any clearer in my explanation...I'm new at this stuff.

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Since: Dec 30, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 06:04 pm

Right - okay, that still isn't clear (hehehe), but I'm gonna try to pick some questions out of it.

From what I gather, when you pan in Home Studio, the actual output from the Delta 66 does not pan, it simply diminishes in volume.

Okay, here's some things to do.

What connections do you have running from your Delta 66 to your Behringer Mixing desk? It should be 2 1/4" jack cables (from outputs 1 & 2) that run into 2 seperate channels (or 1 stereo channel) on the Berhinger mixer.

Try playing back a song that you know from the computer (eg: an mp3 file). Is it playing back in stereo or mono?

Doe adusting the "pan knob" on the Behringer Mixing console pan the sound, or does this not work either?

How do you have your Monitors (speakers) hooked up to your Behringer Mixer?

This will hopefully allow us to make some progress :)

jues.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 27, 2003 09:18 pm

Okay, I'm going to try and answer your questions and comments as best as I can. I'm not a simpleton, I'm just unfamiliar with music software terms. It's new to me...but I'm learning.

Here goes... Quote:
What connections do you have running from your Delta 66 to your Behringer Mixing desk? It should be 2 1/4" jack cables (from outputs 1 & 2) that run into 2 seperate channels (or 1 stereo channel) on the Berhinger mixer.
Answer: Yes, I have it set up just as you described.

Quote:
Try playing back a song that you know from the computer (eg: an mp3 file). Is it playing back in stereo or mono?
Answer: Yes, it is playing in stereo.

Quote:
Does adusting the "pan knob" on the Behringer Mixing console pan the sound, or does this not work either?
Answer: Yes, it pans the sound.

Quote:
How do you have your Monitors (speakers) hooked up to your Behringer Mixer?
Answer: I have the speakers running from the Behringers control room outs.

Quote:
This will hopefully allow us to make some progress.
Answer: If it doesn't...let's still be friends!!(haha)::just some humor::




Contributor
Since: Dec 30, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 09:19 pm

Hmm - right that is odd. So everything is working correctly, it's just when you try to pan in 'Home Studio' that this problem occurs.

Have you tried panning audio in any other program - such as WinAMP or Windows Media Player? Do you still get the same problem?

jues.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 27, 2003 09:21 pm

I'll run and check. be right back!

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 27, 2003 09:30 pm

Now it seems that in Windows Media Player I am having a panning problem also. Hmm...what on earth is going on here?! Let me think about it for a bit, I'll get back to you soon. Thanks jues.

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 27, 2003 10:08 pm

Be sure to check the pan controls in the Delta control panel. One should be far left and the other far right.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 28, 2003 01:27 pm

Okay, I think I have a beat on it. Panning in Home Studio is working! Panning in Delta is working! What I did to test that was...

1. I Unplugged the Delta outs(1&2) that was running into Mixer channels(3&4)

2. I then plugged the Monitors directly into the Delta outs(1&2)

3. I then proceeded to test the Panning in Home Studio and Delta Control Panel...Both Worked!

My unprofessional opinion on Panning problem: Behringer Channels(3&4) were not allowing the program to completely pan. Why?...I have theories...but at this point the fear of appearing extremely stupid is greater than the need to speculate! Thanks Dudes

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 28, 2003 01:34 pm

are you positive that mixer channels 3 and 4 are hard panned left and right respectively?

Don't worry about appearing stupid. That kinda stuff isn't important. you have to ask to learn ;O) What's your theory?

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 28, 2003 01:55 pm

Thanks Jamie, Now that you mentioned the mixer channels being panned hard left and right, I'm almost positive that's the problem. Duh..should have thought of that;let me give it a run and get back to you.

I'm Roscoooo P. Coltrane
Member
Since: Apr 12, 2003


Jul 28, 2003 02:23 pm

Jamie, I hope you don't take this the wrong way but... I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU!!! I guess you can tell from my little love fest, that the panning works! I'd tell you how dumb I feel, but right now I'm to excited to think about that! Well Jamie, I don't want you to think I don't appreciate you so...I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU!!! Thanks Jamie...Thanks jues.

Hey flametheband, I think I'm a bit psychotic myself!! You Dudes Rule!

Contributor
Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 28, 2003 02:26 pm

excellent! yeah that'll do it, mixing those individual channels back to mono, that would certainly make your mixer's L and R outputs indentical, lol! glad you got it working! -j

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