Drum software?

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Member Since: Jul 02, 2003

I need something to replace my old Yamaha RX 15 with for drums. I've noticed some of you use Fruity Loops, are there any other good ones that are DX capable?

Is FL about the best one out there?

Thanks

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Jul 25, 2003 12:40 am

FL is arguably the best one out there. You can load any sound into it, but it does so much more for a very afforable price

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 25, 2003 05:17 am

Velocity blows FruityLoops away IF all you need is drums from it. Fruitys cool thing is that it can synthisize and sequence any sound. Velocity comes with Cakewalk Project5, which Velocity is one of the drum machines for, there are also several synths with the package, and as a whole, It smokes FL.

I hate knocking FL, cuz it's a great app at a great price, but strictly based on sound quality, with a "price is no abject" mentality, Project5 rules. Hands down, no question about it. And it is stand alone or works as a DXi.

check it out at service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Jul 25, 2003 02:28 pm

Thanks guys.

Project5 looks cool and probably something I'll consider down the road, but right now it's probably a bit overkill for me.

I checked out FL and it looks like it will do what I want and more, and sounds alot better than my old drum machine. :)

I have so much stuff I need to buy right now to get back into this it's crazy. On the one hand it's much cheaper now when you consider how much more you can do with what you buy than when I started but at the same time it all keeps adding up <G>

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Since: Aug 28, 2003


Aug 30, 2003 03:50 pm

Hello, if all your looking for is something for just drums...I downloaded the demo version of PCDrummer, I really enjoy it because the time sequencing is really user friendly...not much in the effects dept., but a usefull tool.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Aug 30, 2003 06:08 pm

Thats a pretty good looking piece of software, not a bad price either for Pro version. It appears though that it only saves as a stereo wav file rather than allowing you to save each kit piece indiviually in a pattern.

I found one called LeafDrums that it is similar, though not quite as polished and is shareware, but doesn't force paying for it. I'm still evaluating it but I think I'm going to pay the shareware for it (only $25)

It has the ability to save the pattern's with each piece of the drums saved as a separate .wav file which is really great for converting to loop format and using in CEP.

Thanks for the headsup, I'm going to play around with the demo version and see if it's better overall than LD.

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 02:28 am

or you can keep naggin us drummers for drums hahaha , i've not forgot about you're tune man . :)

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Aug 31, 2003 02:36 am

LOL, none of these software drummers can hold a candle to real drummer ;) But us rythm challenged guys gotta have something to use in between naggin' the real drumers <G>

Dan

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 06:11 am

fruityloops is the dogs...but yeah, a real drummer whips any drum software (unless its a really crappy drummer)

its very intuitive, flexible and its easy to get good results straight off with it

definately recommended!

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 07:08 am

i'm astounded not drummer jokes guys , come on . here is a free be "at least with software , you don't have to worry about it getting drunk and falling off it's stool."

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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 07:20 am

dont even get me started on them...!

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 07:46 am

For a plethoora of drummer jokes (and other musician jokes) please refer to this thread: www.homerecordingconnecti...d=1124&frm4

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Aug 31, 2003 08:03 am

i remember a few threads , it wa snot my intention to get anyone started on the joke bit .

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Sep 01, 2003 02:08 am

I'd never make jokes about a drummer.. at least not until you finish the drums for my song <G>

Dan

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Sep 01, 2003 04:10 am

my favourite one's

how do ya get two fretless bassists to play in tune?

shoot one!

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Sep 01, 2003 03:09 pm

i've been using my pal's spectrasonics stylus for drums. it's all breakbeats, which is not what i need. but i like it because it's so easy. a bunch of tempo-ready loops, mapped to the keyboard. makes it easy to lay down a drum track and start writing riffs. problem is, all my rock songs are ending up with breakbeats which is just...wrong. but what can i say, if i'm going to be lazy, it's going to be wwith drums. if spectrasonics ever comes up with a rock or industrial drum module, i would buy it in a heartbeat. 3 gigs worth of loops, with filter controls and everything you need. also has individual drum samples--all the snares, toms, kicks and cymbals you need to create your own loops. i haven't gotten too much into that, but it's there.

i just hate drum programming.

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Since: Jun 20, 2003


Sep 02, 2003 12:53 am

OK my curiosity is peaked here. I've got access a middle-of-the-road electronic drum set (Yamaha DTXPRESS II). My initial impression is this may be usable for recording under limited conditions. I think the triggers and midi interface work reasonably well, while the sound generator has some limitations -- especially with the cymbals (not brassy sounding enough. Would Fruity Loops help with this? If I was to record both the digital audio & the midi from the drums and then use that to trigger some high quality drum samples, could I get something that would pass for real drums on a recording? Does FL include some good drum samples? I think I could use the FL drum editing capabilities, but I'm also looking for some good sound quality. Is FL the right product for that? The way I see it, recording real drums will require a significant investment beyond what I've got in my current setup. Is there any way to get there with electonic drums & a good drummer, minus the extra mics, stands, compressor & mixer channels?

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Sep 02, 2003 05:31 am

hay man I use an alesis DM pro and it rocks , i prefure it over my real kit . I just mic my cymbals and there you go .

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 05:27 pm

it's important to point out that there are many situations where a real drummer would *not* be desirable, for instance in most genres of electronic music.

oh yeah, and i had to bring it up: Cakewalk Project 5 doesn't support VST :OP If i had it, i'd probably run it as a DXi inside of Fruity :OD

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
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Since: Jun 20, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 06:04 pm

jamie you're right , for half the stuff i do i tend to use P5 istead of playing .

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 06:15 pm

Project 5 comes bundled with a VST adapter.

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 08:26 pm

blah... foiled again! but don't think you've won this one! i'll NEVER switch to P5! soon i will control the world! HAHAHAHAHA!

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 05, 2003 08:37 pm

Quote:
soon i will control the world! HAHAHAHAHA!


uuuu, ya, good luck with that :-)

Actually, I really like Fruity, it's a great app, but with P5's integration into Sonar being SO handy, and the stock drum sounds (drums are all I sequence 95% of the time) are so superior to any in FruityLoops...well, it saves me the time of making my own drums samples...though I do that on occassion too.

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Since: Jun 20, 2003


Sep 05, 2003 11:28 pm

OK,
I'm looking for a way to get those perfect samples of everything percussive (including cymbals), but totally controlled by the human touch (timing, velocity, placement), in real time as the track is layed-down, and of course it has to be editable later. Is there a way to do that yet? I think the tools are there with electronic triggers, midi and all, but anybody know of mainstream rock recordings that have gone this route? (& I don't mean techno, not at all, nosiree).


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Since: Jun 20, 2003


Sep 05, 2003 11:44 pm

dB,
How much effort is involved creating drum tracks with P5? Let's say you got the entire song & arrangement figured-out, and started laying-down the instrument & vocal tracks. I tend to put off the the thought of drums till later in the game (maybe thats not the right approach). But let's say it's a 1-man-band situation. How long does it take to get that Keith Moon track in there? (OK I'll settle for something less than Keith Moon, just so it sounds human).

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 06, 2003 07:15 am

It's just like creating any MIDI track in P5 or Sonar. P5 instruments plug in to Sonar as a virtual instrument. I find it very quick and easy to do.

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Since: Sep 09, 2002


Sep 06, 2003 10:56 am

Quote:
but anybody know of mainstream rock recordings that have gone this route?


check out the Deftones track Digital bath from their White Pony record. Someone in a thread awhile back decided that the snare in there was definitely a triggered sample. Sure sounds like it.

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