Starting out; need some help

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Member Since: Aug 31, 2011

Well to start out with a big HI. I'm new to the recording world, but been playing music for more than 15 years, a few bands and did a few EP's but nothing too full on. Anyway, I have been inactive in the band scene for a while and have had a tonne of songs running through my head and needed to get them down.

Anyway, to give you an idea on what i'm working with is a basic 2 input pre-usb audio interface, Line6 Pocket Pod, 1 guitar & 1 bass. I am using Sonar X1 as my DAW and getting my head around it all slowly. Oh, and to help with the drums; i am simply using a step sequencer, Session Drummer in Sonar. It works fine for what I need it to do.

I am not having a problem getting the sound I want out of the POD, but where I think I am struggling is combining that sound with everything else. It may very well be an internal EQ issue, but will work that out. The sound does not seem to be coming together and have the spread that I am looking for or compared to what I listen to.

I have recorded 2 tracks of guitars, split 100% left & right each and used a different sound. But still a little empty.

The tips i've read so far have helped a little, HAAS effect and doubling up the tracks etc but it's still not popping. It has no vocals yet, but that is to come... eventually.

Any further tips or links to great threads; happy to hear and see.

Thanks in advance.

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Since: Nov 27, 2007

Aug 31, 2011 09:30 am

Hey man, you seem to have the right idea, can you possibly post the song here? I wouldnt mind checking it out.

It sounds like your doing mostly everything right, so i wouldnt mind susing it out, see if i can help you. i use Pod too.

Since: Apr 03, 2002

Aug 31, 2011 09:32 am

Here is a great article on the subject of mixing www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=154

Welcome to HRC!

Since: Aug 31, 2011

Aug 31, 2011 08:58 pm

Ive added the song to my profile; let me know if there's any issues with the file.
The song isn't as tight as it will be but is for mixing practice purpose only.
Any advice you can give on this would be great.


Since: Jan 30, 2011

Aug 31, 2011 10:17 pm

I would do the following:

*turn up the drums as a whole (maybe leave the kick where it is, i can see it getting out of control)
*maybe cut some low mud in the bass, are you compressing your bass?
*boost some highs on the guitars, like a shelf kinda thing. you dont wanna just boost the reeeeally high freq's. (its funny, I usually have to tame my guitars. theyre usually too bright)

as far as the spread, I can hear what you mean. if youre panning hard right and left, you should have plenty of spread. I think once you have a brighter tone you should hear the spread a little better.

and I love that clean tone. keep that the way it is :)

Since: Aug 31, 2011

Aug 31, 2011 10:43 pm

Thanks for the opinion. Makes sense.
I am aware of the bass, it was a rushed job and is played a little messy. Also, I think the gits are a little too bottom heavy and may need to adjust the POD to give a more mid sound and re-do.
Since: Nov 27, 2007

Sep 01, 2011 10:21 pm

I would hav to agree with Qkid here. the drums....turn those suckers up more.

The guitars basicly have too much space upfront.
couldnt say about the bass guitar i cant really hear it right now.
work on the drums and bass without the guitars, then bring up the vol of the guitars.

Main thing i hear is, guitars with all the body and the rest wth none.
Did you eq the drums at all or are they as they come?

i think the guitars need, as you say, some low end rolled off a touch and go for a notch out of 300hz and a scoop of the mid around 500hz. this way the bass guitar can come thru more.

Thing with guitars is you really gotta make them "fit" next to the bass guitar. by that i mean, make them work as one thing if you can. well to a degree. this means no guitars encroaching on the bass frequencies.
anything up to 100hz isnt needed on guitars, and a mud [email protected] and 500hz. there's more, but this will do for now.

I hope that kinda helps you somehow, i do crap on a bit.hahahaha.

Since: Aug 31, 2011

Sep 02, 2011 09:13 am

Have updated the song; let me know your thoughts. Have also tidied up the bass and solo/clean section.

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