Mar 31, 2009 01:01 pm something similar happened with me as well some time back.what i ws i ws choosing a very high bitrate 64 bit and exporting it.later when after mixing i converted it to 16 bit,it turned out fine.maybe that's the problem...
bewildered and really p*****
Posted on Mar 31, 2009 11:01 am
Dematrix
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been remixing a song and i got it sounding great.
so i went to export it and listened back and it sounded totally ****** up.
the drums especially disappeared back into the mix and sounded really thin and crappy.
thats not the end of it though.
so, i got the s***s with it and went back into the project to see what was up, and the mix is the same.
thing is, i saved it after i exported it and now im stuck with it.
fair enough i wanna smash my head into a brickwall, but can anyone give me an idea on WTF! happened??
I also just realized that ive been exporting my stuff with the mono export checked. which incidently was the only thing i did different this time. i unchecked it.
to be honest this crap has happened before to a lesser degree, and now im thinking, has it always been happening and i just havent picked it up, or just accepted it?
my mixdowns never sound the way i mix them.
some ideas would be great. cheers.
oh yeah, cant see why it would have anything to do with it, but i just upgraded from 2g ram to 4g. on the same day.
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Mar 31, 2009 01:01 pm something similar happened with me as well some time back.what i ws i ws choosing a very high bitrate 64 bit and exporting it.later when after mixing i converted it to 16 bit,it turned out fine.maybe that's the problem...
Mar 31, 2009 01:37 pm I agree that sounds like a bit-rate issue. I've had that same thing happen as well when I exported something and realized I was setting it too high. I changed it to a lower setting and then it sounded fine.
Mar 31, 2009 09:24 pm Just for the sake of semantics - BIT DEPTH (or even more accurately, word-length). Not "bit rate" -- The two are as unrelated as "Barak Obama" and "basic understanding of market forces."
Unless you're rendering to MP3... Then, bit rate would apply. And that would explain why your mixes sound like crap - Low BR MP3's sound like crap.
That all said - Your mixdown should sound the same. Assuming you're working in 32BFP and rendering to 24 or even 16-bit, it shouldn't sound appreciably different. Something isn't right somewhere...
Mar 31, 2009 09:37 pm Quote:
The two are as unrelated as "Barak Obama" and "basic understanding of market forces."
Oh, man, I haven't peed my pants laughing in years...excuse me for a few...
Mar 31, 2009 09:55 pm Big grin here and a large chuckle as well. No pee though, luckily. That would wreck the leather chair.
MM does have way with words at times.
Deon, I'll re read this tomorrow and see if I can think of anything.
Mar 31, 2009 10:15 pm man i thought i might get a "ooh gawd what is he doing now?" approach to this question.
but thanks for showing a bit of interest.
coz i got no clue.
MM im working in 24 bit. and mixdown to 16. then importing it again for master at 16.
should i be working in 32bfp?
basicly ive never changed the bit rate or anything of that nature so im stumped.
and i havent even checked what i should be running ezdrummer at. geez what a lazy so and so.
what im getting, when i go back into the mix is, mainly the drums sound like they are phasing, you know like if you route a send with compression to a track that already has it as an insert?
Or when you dupe a waveform and move it slightly off the other, but too far.
they sound really thin and topy.
will post a bit later.
Mar 31, 2009 11:20 pm Bit depth. DEPTH.
Anyway -
You should stay in 24-bit until the last possible "I'm finished and this is completely done and I'm not going to ever do anything else to it forever" stage.
I'd check (and maybe post) your rendering output options...
Mar 31, 2009 11:22 pm Just FYI, there is a great article in this month's Music Tech Magazine about bit rate conversions in anal-retentive detail.
Apr 01, 2009 12:47 am thanks for that dB.
ok MM
on my stereo out master channel when i export i have a dithering plug in with the following options.
output bits 8 thru to 24. im on 16.
and dithering level. HI. LO. and AUTO BLACK.
im on HI and AUTO BLACK.
My export options are.
"stereo out (stereo)" which i have chosen.
also "wave file" which i have selected.
and other options are
"mono export" which i unchecked and "split channels" unchecked
sample rate options are
8 thru to 96. im on 44.100kz
i just re did the mix so will try another export and see what appens.
Apr 01, 2009 01:42 am That all seems right... I'd probably go to "lo" on dithering and turn the Auto-Black" off, but that's just me. Shouldn't make much of a difference on 90% of material.
Apr 01, 2009 08:39 am got a few things sorted. i think my computer may have had a sad last night or something.
it was still dodgy this mornign but not as bad, honestly i dunno what happened.
im dont have the full update for C4 so you know, could be that.
Thanks for yer help everyone, till next time (couple days) hah ha
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