Recording MIDI in Sonar 7

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Member Since: Dec 07, 2006

Hi All,

I have a new problem getting my keyboard to trigger a MIDI channel in Sonar. I'm no MIDI expert, but it used to work so I know how to at least get it working, but now all of a sudden it doesnt seem to work and I think maybe a setting is the problem.

My Nord Lead is connected to my Delta 1010 via MIDI cable and when I press a key on the Nord, the MIDI In light on the Delta lights up so I know the cable is good. I even tried another cable to be sure.

Even Sonar's MIDI In/Out Activity light shows up in the tray and lights up when I press a button so I know the Delta is transmitting to the PC, but for some reason, when I arm and echo the channel in Sonar, it wont show any signal in the track. I have the input set to "Delta 1010 MIDI - Omni" which is what I have always used in the past. The piano roll to input sound works just fine, but it's jut the keyboard signal is not finding it's way to the track.

Is there a setting that may have gotten screwed up that would prevent the signal to getting to the track?

Anyone have any thoughts or similar problems?

Thanks!

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 15, 2009 03:13 pm

I'll assume you have armed the midi track for record. That is the first thing I can think of since all else seems to be working fine.

Next, you might want to open the option's/midi page and check to make sure no filters are turned on such as note data and the like.

Are you trying to record midi data for a software synth track? If so use the Synth Rack to set up the tracks. It is much easier and prevents any mistakes in track set up.

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2006


Feb 15, 2009 09:47 pm

Thanks for responding Noize...

Yeah its all armed for record and echoed for monitoring. as for the software synth, i always uses the synth rack to set up my tracks since thats the only thing i currently use midi for.

I'm not sure what midi page you are referring too though. under options, there is no midi page, just midi devices which just allows me to select my midi i/o. I went into options/global and under the midi tab and didnt see anything about filters. any thoughts?

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 16, 2009 04:23 pm

Ya, let me get to the studio PC and I'll open it up to get the exact location of the filters page.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 16, 2009 04:56 pm

OK, I forget as I don't use change much there any more. But yes, the Global mid page is the only place that can now shut off notes. Just make sure that the box is checked to record notes. In fact probably best to check all data.

Try turning the track echo off once.

It is odd that you are getting data signal all the way to Sonar. It has to be a track setting is all.

Have you tried a new project as well just to make sure something is not corrupt in that project?

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2006


Feb 17, 2009 07:45 pm

Yeah, I even went back to old projects that I had recorded the keyboard takes on where input and track settings would still be the same as they were the day that I recorded them and it still wont input.

There is one thing I have left out that I'm quite sure has nothing to do with this problem, but I thought I would at least put it on the table just in case: I have one of those B-Control (BCF2000) plugged in through USB. One day it simply wouldnt turn on - so now its disconnected. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the problem, but that is the ONLY change on my system (other than new audio data) that has taken place between now and then that is even remotely related to MIDI.

Like I said, I'm sure its a stretch but I wanted to throw it out there because sometimes...you just never know.

Since I mentioned it, has that 'BCF' issue ever happened to anyone? I wish it were a fuse but there aren't any accessible externally.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 17, 2009 08:09 pm

OK, it just dawned on me. I know you are looking at the midi i/o on the task bar and seeing that react.

But what about the actual velocity input bar in the midi track? And as well it should have the input flash at the very end of the velocity input meter that will come on each time a note trigger is sensed.

I'll look into the BCF thing but I doubt that it has anything to do with it. Not saying it doesn't, but odds are good it isn't related.

Only thing I can think of would be its hogging the midi i/o but that doesn't seem to be the problem either.

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2006


Feb 17, 2009 08:58 pm

...so as it turns out...it 'all of a sudden' works! now i know im not crazy and i can prove it because the last time I opened a particular file, was when i was prompted to write this post in the first place and when i saved it, those were the settings i was using.

i opened that file again just now without changing a single thing and it works now...go figure. maybe it was just a reboot issue...although i did try rebooting several times prior to posting. who the he11 knows?

Thanks so much for sticking with me tho Noize...now only if i could get the dang B-Control to SUDDENLY work again, ill be in business.

Thanks again.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Feb 17, 2009 09:45 pm

Yep, all I can say is sweet deal on that.

On the B-Control. Do what we used to do with our old Yamaha live mixer's.

Smack it upside, really hard. Worked every single time without a hitch.

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Since: Dec 07, 2006


Feb 17, 2009 09:59 pm

Funny you should say that...I've tried that a few times already. haha. The unit has served me well for almost 4 years so I cant complain too much for a Behringer...but still, now that I'm used to it, being without it is kind of a drag for automation and such.

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