midi and crashing

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Member Since: Oct 16, 2007

good night ladies and gent
im having one problem
first about my pc keep restarting when i use a vst and vsti .
now qst why it doing so and what can i do so i can stop it from doing that agian.

and two how can i turn midi into audio with out mixdown i was trying it from the keyboard but i think im missing something if any one can help me here would be very nice thank you

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 24, 2008 09:26 pm

OK, I'm not going to search for the other thread for the info. Could you give the details of your PC again here. CPU type and speed, amount of Ram, HD space.

And what is qst? That is a new one to me.

As for turning midi into audio without doing a mixdown. You would need to either bounce the tracks to audio which means you select the midi and VSTi track and then it should be a menu selection by right clickin in the track and selecting bounce track.

The other solution would be to simply play it live and record the audio. But doing that you have to take the latency of your sound card into account and be able to move the track back the number of milliseconds that the latency delays it.

Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 24, 2008 10:33 pm

'qst' is the abbreviation of 'question' Noize. ddreadi is asking why he has to restart his PC after using a VST/VSTi.

Veni, MIDI, Vici
Member
Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 24, 2008 11:10 pm

Noize, a quick HRC search resulted in this:

computer window xp 500gb hardrive 1gb like you know aready i have the omega and cubase and bunch of vst and vsti

It's not much, but at least you'll have a general impression now. :-) Knowing the processor type and speed would be a big help of course.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 25, 2008 01:39 pm

Ah, thanx Nightcap.

But indeed, it would be helpful to know the CPU size and amount of ram. That would really enable us to have a better idea of what might be causing the crashes.

DO you have any other cards installed that might be conflicting with the Omega?

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 26, 2008 03:18 am

i only have the asio4 all which i dont use no more,
when ever i use any vsti/vst the computer restarts on its own i would like to know the reason why its doing that your input would be highly appreciated.
thanks in advance



this is what i have : hp comp,
sempron (tm)processor 3400+ 1.79 ghz/2.87 gb ram, 500 gb sata harddrive
cubase studio 4 (4.5.2) reason 4, ableton live 7, lots ov vst/ vsti
yamaha sy 77, mpd 32, m-audio monitors.


Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 26, 2008 03:24 am

i would love to have my info everytime i post if anyone could just point out how i would gladly do it so i wont be ask to post specs again lol thatnks again for replying

Veni, MIDI, Vici
Member
Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 26, 2008 03:06 pm

To do that, click on "My Account". You can find that button on the menu bar at the top of the page. Then click "Edit Your Profile". That will take you to the page where you can list everything you are using.

You can check the profiles of other members to get the general idea.

Hope this helps. :-)

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 26, 2008 04:43 pm

Ok goodday/night to everyone
now if i can get that answer why my pc keep restarting without i asking it to do so. maybe if im using to many vst/vsti
cause when i try to either use an vst or vsti it does restart can i know why plzz if anyone know the reason.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 26, 2008 05:04 pm

sounds like you have a buggy vst someplace...is it with any VST or just some specific one?

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 26, 2008 07:40 pm

any vst or vsti
it doesnt really matter which one
but i did a system recovery today so it didnt do it today im still waiting to see when it will start again

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 26, 2008 09:31 pm

Ah, let us know. It could have been an update to something or another problem with something that got installed that was or is causing it.

As dB stated the normal cause can usually be pointed directly to one VST or VSTi that is as he stated buggy.

It sounds like your system should be up to the task without any problems though so that is good.

Keep an eye on anything that might be updating before it happens again.

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 26, 2008 10:03 pm

cool thanks for all the info
now i will try to stay close to you guys so i can learn a thing or two
thanks for all your input
its all appreciated

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 27, 2008 09:03 pm

That's what we are here for.

May I ask were you are from by the way? From the name I would guess Jamaica, but maybe Trinidad or there about.

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 29, 2008 03:37 pm

hi am back
yes you are right that i am from the caribbean but jamaica neither trinidad
im from St.Maarten is an small island in the netherlands antilles maybe you heard from it in sports like the olimpics beijing 2008
anyway .
But is all nice nice to meet you guys too

i did say my problem was over ohh boy was i ever so wrong the pc keep restarting and now when i launch cubase studio 4 it just restart on me so i need to know what i can do to stop it from restarting and how to get my pc working normal again
by any chance you plan to take a vacation right here is the place to be
so you can help me all out hahahahaha
just had to put that in
anyway enjoy your weekend and may it be pleasant for you

Veni, MIDI, Vici
Member
Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 29, 2008 10:40 pm

Could be wrong on this, but did you check for viruses/trojans etc. lately? Just want to rule out that possibility.

I know where St. Maarten is. You share the island with the French. I've never been there, but I'm originally from the Netherlands, so I guess we're still kinda fellow countrymen. :-)

BTW Noticed that you managed to find your Profile page and put some info in there. Great!


Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 29, 2008 11:55 pm

goodnight nightcap
you are right on that and yea we are from the dutch queendom so yea nice meeting you too nightcap.
actually i didnt scan my pc lately i think is a good idea to do that now because its kinda acting crazy too
i will report back to you when i do scan it before i go to bed its like 1am in the morning now heheeh
and if its not a virus what else do you think might be the problem just hoping you would know what else that can be done.
thank so much i must say to you nightcap

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 12:03 am

nightcap if we can chat on a regular would be nice if you dont mind just maybe i can get some more knowlegde that you have there in all this stuff you wont charge me wont you nightcap
lol

Veni, MIDI, Vici
Member
Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 30, 2008 12:51 am

A good night to you too ddreadi. Yeah, it's late already.
Never wrong to check for bad stuff on your pc. Let us know if anything shows up during the scan(s).

So far I don't have a clue what could be wrong, but with the help of all the knowledgeable people here, we'll be able to track your problem down, I'm sure. Even if you have to buy a whole new system. LOL

I don't mind talking to you and I won't charge you anything... ;-)


Ne'er ate 'er
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Since: Apr 05, 2006


Nov 30, 2008 01:11 am

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/Artlounge69/animceblobs.gif



You two are cute.

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Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 01:19 am

yuck yuck yuck
im trying to take some classes jus trying to be nice hahahaha
i dont be happy like how you want to have it herbs utsmelz
now take music out of politricks

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Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 02:46 am

ok me again
did a complete scan with etrust ez antivirus and nothing came up
that leave for some smart person to tell me what can possibly make my pc restart
when i use vst/vsti


Ne'er ate 'er
Member
Since: Apr 05, 2006


Nov 30, 2008 11:27 am

VSTs can use a lot of system resources. How much stuff does your computer have running in the background? Before recording, you can go to the Task Manager (ctrl+alt+delete in Windows XP) and turn off processes like antivirus programs and things that you don't immediately need. That will help to free up some room for you.


Veni, MIDI, Vici
Member
Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 30, 2008 04:26 pm

At least now we know that your system probably is clean.

Herb is right on the used resources. I would look into that. Something in the background may be interfering.

Is it only Cubase crashing when you are using VSTs or does it happen with Reason and Ableton too? Another question: is your software legit?

What about removing Cubase and do a fresh install?

Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Since: Jul 02, 2008


Nov 30, 2008 04:30 pm

Herb, the animation really made me laugh! You seem to have a good source of pics/anims for every situation and the right kind of humor! :-)

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Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 07:04 pm

i didnt mean that cubase was crashing i mean that the whole computer itself restart like it being restart wnhen i use any vst.
like it suddenly got a short and deside to restart my cubase doesnt crash almost nearly niether soes ableton and reason
its just the whole windows xp go off and restart again
i hope you understand me

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 07:05 pm

goodnight to every one excuse me my manners just walk in the house now.
hope you all had a pleasant day. have a good week to everyone

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 30, 2008 07:20 pm

if your whole box is restarting itself spontaneously, you have either a serious driver conflict or some sort of weird virus.

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Nov 30, 2008 07:31 pm

ok
so how can i go about this now
you do the brain storming hihihi and i will try to get it fix it
i toke every running component of but i still have the same problem .

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Dec 01, 2008 06:39 pm

looks like this one is a hard one
i wil let this rest for the time being untill i get a solution.

few question i have still
i read in some thread to have a secondary drive just for the vst,s any one can give me some cleus how i go about that one it seems as a good idea so you think its worth trying

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 02, 2008 07:56 pm

I will agree that it may be a driver conflict or possibly a bad piece of hardware in the PC itself.

A quick idea is that a bad or faulting power supply can cause this type of issue. You may want to start there, though it is not a simple solution.

I would possibly start by turning off each driver one at a time and hope that you can find one that when the PC re-starts might be the cause of the problem.

But I am really leaning toward the power supply going bad.

Does it seem to have trouble re-starting sometimes?

Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Dec 02, 2008 08:18 pm

no it restart normal
but i really dont have a joice i will just try and see if what you saying is the problem

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Since: Oct 16, 2007


Dec 02, 2008 08:47 pm

when ever i use a vst like ozone3, compression , or which ever one i use the computer just turn off and then restart again so if you can tell me do a power supply react to a vst plugin?

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 02, 2008 09:22 pm

Well, no it probably would not react to a VST. But I thought you had said a little bit back that it would just restart on its own now.


Member
Since: Oct 16, 2007


Dec 03, 2008 10:22 pm

im sorry my bad
i mean it would restart when ever i use a vst
i freeze all the vsti tracks and that im using and i also and i also set windows to best performance which i didnt do.
seems like working better now
well thats for not reading from day one.
Now i think i have to just read the manual so more

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