3D Sound

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iosono-sound.com/index.html

sounds interesting, heard cool stuff about it on the radio this morning...

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Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 19, 2008 08:21 am

That is interesting. My first question is how well does the 3D image stay in place as you move about the room?

I'd like to hear this.

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Nov 19, 2008 06:12 pm

awesome desk in the pic.

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Nov 19, 2008 06:13 pm

what's the new avatar mean dB?
I like.

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Nov 19, 2008 07:03 pm

It's the square and compass, the commonly accepted (or, most recognizable, anyway) symbol of Masonry, the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons.

I can't remember the last time a members new avatar has generated as many comments as my latest one has :-) Funny.

That said, Freemasons are a a lightning rod for conspiracy theory and all that...so, well...I guess I shouldn't be surprised, shoulda seen the reaction a friend of mine got from his car emblem of the same logo, a dude yelling at him from a car about how we are evil and controlling the world and all that just a couple days ago, kinda funny.

Czar of Midi
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Nov 19, 2008 08:11 pm

I had heard a bit about this a few months ago from a friend in Berlin.

Herb, as for the sweet spot, apparently the entire room is the sweet spot. The system is rather large from what he had said. The speaker arrays are not small by any stretch.


http://iosono-sound.com/photos/overview3.jpg



It takes several processor's and a rack full of their gear to make it work. I am guessing it is based on delay times and the like similar to the 7.1 and 10.2 systems out now only much more advanced.


http://iosono-sound.com/photos/overview2.jpg



He did state it is being used in several clubs over there already with great success.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 20, 2008 06:41 am

All for the low low price of...

I'll put this on my wish list for 2018. Along with a 1500 sq. ft addition to the house. Hm. Yeah. That's it. Second mortgage.....


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Nov 20, 2008 07:00 am

Oh yeah dB i heard of the Mason's.

Dont know whole heap about it, but if ya got people yelling yer evil and what not, sounds like it could only be fun.

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Nov 20, 2008 07:10 am

Today it's a little bit more than a typical Rotary Club or other public service kind of group, just much more widespread and very wealthy, not the members necessarily, but the org. We do charity work for the community, and stuff like that. You may have heard of the Shriner Hospitals, Shiners are Masons.

That said people link Freemasons with all sorts of grand world control conspiracy theories and stuff...as illustrated in the National Treasure movies, that was all based around Freemason history and conspiracy.

Like one of my Lodge Brothers said once "Yeah, we'll get around to world domination after this next Fish Fry" :-D

Prince CZAR-ming
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Nov 20, 2008 09:48 am

Quote:
Freemasons with all sorts of grand world control conspiracy theories and stuff.


second in world control only to the stone cutters





=)


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Nov 20, 2008 09:52 am

That is one of the greatest Simpsons episodes ever...seems funny though, the town's "secret society" has every single male character as part of it... :-D

Seems to kinda lessen the secret, eh?

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 20, 2008 09:57 am

Certain friends have told me I should join the Oddfellows.

I don't think they quite understand..

Czar of Midi
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Nov 20, 2008 09:20 pm

Herb, you know if the price isn't listed on the page's of the website then its more then either you or I or even dB would spend on a system.

I'm guessing a single array such as the one pictured will set one back about 4 or 5 grand??

Can't say for sure but that would be a decent guess I would venture.

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Nov 20, 2008 09:36 pm

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or even dB would spend on a system


Ya mean "or even dB's wife would let him spend"...my spending is limited only by her...

Czar of Midi
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Nov 20, 2008 10:05 pm

Amen to that!

My house would be completely wired with custom audio throughout if it wasn't for that fact.

Funny how even though the studio makes plenty of money I can't spend it without being questioned on it.

Take for instance the newest edition to the guitars here. I picked up a nice black Epiphone Les Paul Custom for Ray. He was playing it while I was chatting with Ben, the store owner and a friend. Ray simply fell in love with it. And honestly it is a huge improvement over the Indonesian Fender Strat he has now.

But do you think I am allowed to simply give it to him. NOOOOOOOOOOO!

She wants me to not let him have it and give it to him for Xmas from both of us.

Did she have anything to do with it, NOPE!

I gave it to him tonight. :-P

Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Nov 20, 2008 10:27 pm

So... if I get that right our wives are one of the biggest contributing factors of the current economic crisis? LOL

The Czar of BS
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Nov 21, 2008 12:00 am

A few years ago, a friend of mine (Chris Gatley) was playing with this 3D sound in headphones.

The idea was to put a slightly longer delay on the right side as opposed to the left.

This moved the sound into a 3D space. But, only in your headphones.

The picture that you have shown Noize, looks very similar to the curve array that was developed in Germany.

It looks as if they flattened out the curve, and place each speaker on it's own channel. And they more then likly took a page out of the Nexo processing book.

Delaying and changing EQ with level. I loved to hear a demo of the system. Maybe during NAMM, they'll have a setup.

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Nov 21, 2008 06:48 am

A few years back a few of us were beta testing plugins for a company that ended up bankrupt by hurricanes. One of their new plugins really had promise in the 3d area, it was a "distancing" plug that would move sound closer to, and further from, your ears, changing the reverb, and tonal frequencies according to that one scale which I forget the name of...

Anyway, it was buggy, we were working them out at the time, but it would have had some promise in this area as well...A

Czar of Midi
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Nov 21, 2008 09:33 pm

I still have one of the working plugs, SSM I believe. I should install that again. IT was kind of fun to play with at times.

Rob, ya the array is straight on this one.

The whole system takes many of those arrays and sets them about the area.

But indeed the system to control it all is more then likely a good deal of cash to lay out for the common man to own one, let alone investing in the number of arrays it would take to make it work properly.

Czar of Midi
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Nov 21, 2008 09:35 pm

Nightcap, yes I believe that to be true. dB and I were just discussing that over a bite to eat and a couple of beers. That and giving advice on women to my youngest Ray as well.

Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Nov 21, 2008 09:48 pm

Noize, my wife wants you to know that she totally disagrees! According to her they only want to run a balanced budget. Whatever that means. ;-)

Czar of Midi
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Nov 22, 2008 08:33 pm

Mine is like that as well yes. But her budget includes what she wants and what I want is considered a none essential expense. Even though she has nothing to do with the studio she still thinks that its profit should go into her budget as well.

Which honestly it does, more then she realizes most times. During the hard times that is the money that kept us afloat. And in the past it has allowed some way over budget things to be had.

But ya, a balanced budget is usually all they want.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 22, 2008 10:44 pm

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/Artlounge69/Stupidamplifiersmed.gif


Czar of Midi
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Nov 22, 2008 10:56 pm

Thats another subject completely Herb.
Ben has already made me promise that if Ray gets good and keeps up with the lessons it will be my duty to bring him along into the world of gear horeism.

He (Ben) is already looking at a few interesting boutique amps for Ray as he seems to think he is going along nicely.

Can you imagine me bringing say a Bogner with a 4 x 12 home with Ray. She would keel over.....

Hey, not a bad idea. :-)

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 23, 2008 12:36 am

I got your boutique amp right here:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/Artlounge69/1931Philco111-1.jpg



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/Artlounge69/1931Philco111-1gutssmall-1.jpg



1931 Philco 111 highboy. Speaking of gear heroism, there were only about 3000 of these babies made. I own one. And yes, it plays.

I've cleaned the back of the chassis since the pics were taken.

BTW, her name is Phyllis.

Czar of Midi
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Nov 23, 2008 02:19 pm

Nice looking lady there Herb.

My mother has I believe an old Philco tho it may be RCA similar, although not a highboy design like yours. She sits flat, but around the same era I do believe. Maybe a tad younger then your girl there.

I loved working on old radios when I was a kid. The neighbor was an old retired guy and his wife and he had a basement full of goodies from small to large like that.

Very nice piece for sure.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 23, 2008 02:32 pm

This was the beginning of the golden period of radio manufacturing. Hundreds of models in any given year, all different and skillfully made. I wonder if we'll ever again see a time when companies really care about craftsmanship.

Here's one of the lowboy models for '31:


http://www.philcoradio.com/gallery/images/1931/112l.jpg



Thread jack

Czar of Midi
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Nov 23, 2008 02:54 pm

I'll get the model of the one she has. It is a bit more rounded in design. Both on the side and top corners. Nicely rounded and a slightly larger tuning face.

The amp section is very similar in the way it is set up though. I have not touched the thing in years though and am sure it will need some TLC to bring it back to a full life again.

Ya, how did we get off topic so far?

Did I do that?

Ne'er ate 'er
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Nov 23, 2008 03:07 pm

We're talking about sound, and antique radios are three dimensional. No jack, I guess.

Czar of Midi
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Nov 23, 2008 03:16 pm

Ya, its all good then.

Veni, MIDI, Vici
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Nov 23, 2008 11:21 pm

Herb, so nice to see something like those radios again. Even when not being used they complimented the rest of the furniture. Good to hear that you take care of your lady and keep her purring. ;-)

Don't mind the possible hi-jack, it's all just about a disturbance of mechanical energy that propagates through matter as a wave.

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