School of Audio Engineering

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Member Since: Nov 27, 2007

man im stoked to report i enrolled at the scool of Audio Eng today. (SAE)

its a 2 year AE Diploma which starts in Feb next year.
I can still work in my trade and do the study at night which is an added bonus.

i went in to the school here in Perth to check it out and went through the syllabus. The gear! man its impressive to say the least. analogue, digital (cubase 4, pro tools, reason etc.) and film are just some of the apps. there.

Not to mention all the guidance and theory to becoming a sound engineer, which for me, is something i am really interested in.
They are all over the world too, so good employment opps, and while im here doing the course i can use the gear to record my own band if i want as well as having access to global SAE's.

finally i feel like my life is headed in some direction, or at least a direction i feel excited about.
im all to eager to change my current work situation and do something that makes it worth while being here.

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www.TheLondonProject.ca
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Oct 06, 2008 11:13 pm

Excellent! I've been doing a course for awhile and if you haven't checked out my blog before you probably should as I outline a lot in what I've been learning.

beerhunter341.blogspot.com

The Czar of BS
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Oct 06, 2008 11:32 pm

Excellent Deon! When do you start? And if you get to work with any of the Yamaha Digital boards, and you happen to get stuck. This is one area that I can certainly help with.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Oct 06, 2008 11:48 pm

cool, will check that out thanx Beerhunter.

and yeah Rob, i start in Feb next year, and yep they had digi Yamaha board there i noticed.
will hit you up for some info at some point im sure.
very much appreciated.

Czar of Midi
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Oct 07, 2008 04:44 pm

Congrats Deon, you'll do well and probably enjoy it as well.

Byte-Mixer
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Oct 07, 2008 07:41 pm

Best of luck to you on that. Sounds like a good deal to me! After I move next year I'm hoping to save up for the Berkley Music Online certifications. There may be a possibility I'll end up out in CA besides. The g/f's mentor has a friend doing the same type research out at UCLA. So she may end up there for her postdoc. That's damned far from the family though heh.

Anyhoo, I'm sure you'll do fine. Heck, ya have a head start from hanging around this place!

-J

Tim the Enchanter
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Oct 07, 2008 08:34 pm

That is awesome man! You'll have to keep us updated on how it goes. I've been contemplating finding a school as well. Just don't have the money to do it right now, and I haven't really found one that will fit in my schedule.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Oct 11, 2008 08:08 pm

^cool as, yeah the money, well tha's another story, bloody expensive!!
$9800 for 2 years partime!

Typo Szar
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Since: Jul 04, 2002


Oct 12, 2008 12:10 am

I heard the program in Aus is tops, so are some of their larger schools. We have one in Thailand here, a smaller one which i have to report... (based on my own experiences meeting with their students) is anything but tops.

I actually wanted to enroll but after meeting with some of the instructors and their graduates, didnt seem worth the money compared to enrolling into an actual college course on AE coz i get the college credit as well u know.

But yeah, i dont know who else has experienced it, but the branch here in Bangkok is horrible.

The Colonels mum. Yay!
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Oct 29, 2008 03:13 am

My son did the SAE Audio Eng Diploma in Auckland and the SAE degree in Byron Bay, Australia. He has to hand in his thesis to have the degree conferred.

I think it was great for his confidence and also a continuation of his general education since he decided to leave school at the age of 15 years with NCEA Level 1 only.

During his time at Byron he also became interested in electronics and taught himself the basics by making guitar pedals and an amp etc.

I believe it to be money well spent

On the whole I think it was very challenging in all aspects but very good for him.

He is currently building a flasher studio than the home studio he had, working in electrical installation and supposedly finishing that thesis.

Sometime next year he will be heading overseas to see what he can make of himself in the music recording industry.

I wish you all the best Deon. A mantra we have in our family is 'once you've made your decision, you've got to make it the right decision'.

Cheers,
TBM


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Oct 29, 2008 08:02 am

TBM? Wow, been a while, good to see you and thanks for the input!

The Colonels mum. Yay!
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Oct 29, 2008 05:23 pm

Nice to see you dB. I started a thread called 'the colonel appears to have left the building...and so I'm back.

Optimistic pessimist eh? Is that what you're wearing on Halloween? mbwahahahaha! Come on over...if you're in the neighbourhood!


Czar of Midi
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Oct 29, 2008 07:32 pm

Indeed, he has come a long way since he first got here. Some of the pieces of music he has shared are very well done. I personally loved the Auckland Symphony capture he did. That was splendid to my ears.

But truly experience is going to be the greatest teacher with the education ow behind him.

Halloween? It would seem Ray has dug out the old Gumby costume so I will get some pictures of that and post them for a good chuckle. He barely fits in it now he is gotten to be such a big kid.

The Colonels mum. Yay!
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Oct 29, 2008 07:43 pm

You're right Noize. Arie has a long way to go yet if he's to make a profession out of this.

The combination of SAE, HRC and himself is pretty powerful though. :)

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Oct 29, 2008 11:33 pm

Thanks for that TBM. that last little bit about making it the right decision has done more for me than me than you can know.

Im 33 ears old and im leaving a good industry with over the top pay, and even though im booked in to do the course, i am still feeling funny about it, as i will be almost definatley be getting less money pursuing audio.

So that last comment of yours has done alot for me. I find it funny that, i've never seen you here before, and you've come along with this post and its made me see things differently.
I take it a sign.

I need to make this work for me so i can do what i love, instead of soemthing i dont.



The Colonels mum. Yay!
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Oct 29, 2008 11:59 pm

You'll be fine. The better students at Byron were creamed off the top, giving them pretty good access to opportunities the others didn't get. Also SAE has an international network.

Obviously, for those who are not in the 'top' of the SAE course...well, its up to them to make their education matter.

Do you enter this industry expecting to make money? I think its a long haul.

All the best.


http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Oct 30, 2008 02:04 am

no, im doing it because, its what i want to do career wise.

ive been a muso and been involved in recording somewhat for years, its what i love.

i feel i have alot to offer, and wheather i work in the industry or not i feel im killing two birds with one stone by doing this course.

im opening up a different road in my life and i still have my trade to fall back on.
I also have a mate in the industry who works for tv stations around the world so i guess he can help me out work wise.

All in all, im not expecting anything major all at once, im already knee deep in music and the like as it is, so im thinking things will definatley present themselves as i go.

Bascily i just want a career change, and im thankfull im able to take this opp.

The Colonels mum. Yay!
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Oct 30, 2008 02:17 am

I agree. Take care of the basics, work hard, persevere. Things will present themselves.

Czar of Midi
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Oct 30, 2008 09:16 pm

I have to say I consider myself very lucky to have had the people around to teach me. But it was a very different time back then. I did a lot of grunt work just to be able to sit in on sessions in the beginning. It was a long haul to get to the point of being trusted enough to take on a session on my own. But I always pushed a bit to get my input heard. And once I was allowed to run the gear and started doing my own recordings it was pretty much a landslide from there.

But as I said, it doesn't always happen like that. Now a bit of schooling can go along way, but experience is still a major part of it.

http://www.reverbnation.com/2ndg
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Oct 30, 2008 09:50 pm

i agree there Noize, you can only teach someone so much in this game.
you need to have an understanding or a good feel for music and preferably song writng and production.

you need to know what's going to work for a song, mix wise, and where to acentuate or back off bits where its needed.

from my past experience with bands i've been in when recording, and on stage, the engineer/mixer can totally wreck a good song played well, with a crap mix.

in fact live, as we all know, its a common application to make the support band sound like crap with a crappy mix and then then the engineer all of sudden remembers how to mix in time for the headliner.
well, my scaley little mixer friend, make the most of it, coz it aint gonna happen with my show's for too much longer.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Oct 31, 2008 12:32 am

one really cool thing about SAE is that after you graduate, you can come back and use their studios if they're not beein' used....i got to go to the one here in nashville on a sunday night and we had the whole building to ourselves practically....i was in shock and awe.

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