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May 12, 2008 07:26 am What's up?
need to talk to someone who uses craigslist frequently
May 12, 2008 07:35 am I have used it quite a bit at times...great place to find hookers and killers...
seriously though, I have sold tons of stuff...
May 12, 2008 07:47 am i post 10 ads every 48 hours. i only do this when looking for work.
there's a downturn right now. i've been keeping this pace for about two months (but doing it on and off for two years with no prob). i tried to do it tonight and suddenly i'm told i need to sign up for an account.
it's hard to find info on accounts, on what they are and why they are. i don't know what they *basically* are for. seems like they exist to limit your activities above all else.
it sucks, cuz my campaigns are very modest. and now it looks like my auto poster tool isn't going to work anymore, which means i'll have to spend...a few minutes every 48 hours manually posting the ads, making the tool useless. and it has made life so much more enjoyable and simple.
the list is uptight. they should have some better policies. if anyone knows about accounts, please tell me what ya know. i'm discouraged.
May 12, 2008 07:51 am accounts are minimal on craigs...but they are set up using a CAPTCHA test, so an automated account maker would be thwarted.
That said, the tool you bought SHOULD have a way to log in to an existing account and list your ad under it...if it doesn't, it seems a silly tool...I have never used an automated system like that.
May 12, 2008 07:53 am no, the tool i have is great. i type in the captchas, but it's still way easier. seconds, instead of twenty minutes. when i try to use it now, i'm told i must log into my account--even when i already am.
the tool has been thwarted at a more basic level. but i'm not a spammer. i'm within the rules, and i stick to them perfectly.
feel like i got hit unjustly here.
May 12, 2008 07:54 am Quote:
when i try to use it now, i'm told i must log into my account--even when i already am.
Sounds to me like you should be contacting the author of the program...
...and technically speaking, automated multiple submissions IS spamming.
May 12, 2008 07:58 am it should be classed as spamming only if you violate the rules, which i do not. i'm using it as a tool of convenience, a time saver. other people may use it for nefarious purposes, but others--like me--use it because it simplifies the process.
the program probably has a plug-in which would let me get around this, but i'll have to pay. it's a great tool. i'm a little mad at craig's. i understand their mission, but they're too draconian. this just sucks.
May 12, 2008 08:09 am yeah, I see your point, you are not violating the rules, so yeah, but I am just speaking my personal opinion...with my personal web applications I stop automated submissions (or try my best to) because to me, once you use automation, it's spam.
Craig is old school, very primitive web app, that said, unless the program you are using is made and sold by craigs, you have no decent reason to be "mad" at craigs...not as I see it anyway, it's one of those things that you'll have to wait for a patch to the application or something.
May 12, 2008 08:18 am i'm just disappointed. because there would seem to be better ways to police it.
oh well
May 12, 2008 08:26 am not necessarily...if you think about it, as far as a web app goes, it can't (or is quite difficult) to determine intent...erring on the side of security is usually the best course of action.
May 12, 2008 08:36 am i dunno, i think i can think of some ways. look at ip address plus number of posts. you could tell who's legit and who's not.
May 12, 2008 08:42 am or maybe i don't know what i'm talking about. but they seem to know my ip...
i'm not logged in. i now get a notification even why i try to post normally.
so why couldn't you just issue like the strict 48 hrs/only a few posts at a time thing in conjunction with that? you worried about people faking ip addresses and stuff?
May 12, 2008 08:46 am IP's don't matter much, they are dynamic, change a lot the reverse DNS could matter but thousands and thousands have the same result there...they help, it's easy info to capture on the "what the hell, let's grab it" sort of measure...but it's not a very good identifier...
May 12, 2008 08:49 am and of course i have a static one. :(
i just don't see how they know anything at all then. i'm getting targeted for an account by my ip, as far as i can tell. i guess you're saying that if i had a phone modem or something, with dynamic ip, this wouldn't even be a problem? now i also feel discriminated against.
i dont really know anything about ip ins n outs; if i sound ludicrous, sorry. they have to be identifying me somehow, though, and that's all i can come up with, since it's instant.
oh well, goodnight.
May 12, 2008 08:52 am hell, it's not just dialup that has dynamic IP's most broadband networks have them too, static IP usually comes with an extra charge...
The only real good way to identify somebody is via a log in...though there are ways with a blend of info...IP, reverse DNS, useragent (as most people have their "fav browser", and some automation tools have their own useragent tho many just use IE's)...geo targeting of the IP...but some of it is just silly to try to do when you can simply force a log in.
May 12, 2008 09:42 am What are you advertising?
May 12, 2008 03:56 pm I mean if you're looking for a job, and you're not willing to spend 20 minutes....
I don't know, I'll refrain from drawing any conclusions. I just think you're worrying about something small. It's craig's site. He gets to run it how he pleases. It's not your right to be able to use automated post tools. In fact, if I was craig, I'd try and stop any automated post tools from running too. Just my two cents.
May 12, 2008 04:59 pm anarchist, my services.
coolo, it's ongoing. it's a constant search for new projects, so it's something that's kind of a big part of what i do. again, i just think there's a better way. i don't think the auto posting is the source of the prob, actually. it's likely the uptick in activity on my part and the sustained nature of it. i probably 'look like' i'g going to just keep doing this, but it's really just the result of a downturn in the market.
*shrug*
May 12, 2008 09:20 pm Even though this is an old article, I think you might be a victim of some of the new methods craigslist is using to narrow down what they call clutter. This article is where some of it began.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp...0302749_pf.html
May 13, 2008 05:20 am you can't post the same ad multiple times in a day. there's a strict 48 hour check on all repeat postings. you can get around it by using a different computer (or maybe a different email account) but i think you still have to rotate ads. no doubt a lot of people do that. so i bet i just did it for a week too long.
it sucks, because if i had just picked up just one job in time period, all my posts would have ceased for another two months. this is how i was able to persist for so long like this.
oh well, can't control the economy from firefox.
May 13, 2008 02:51 pm hey, forty, i want to apologize for my comments yesterday. I think they came off kind of crass. I think I was in some sort of bad mood or something. I don't know, but I feel like I was kinda out of line. So, I'm sorry for that.
May 13, 2008 04:24 pm it's alright; i complain a lot. it's sort of a hobby. i believe it can be somewhat annnoying. it just gets to be late at night and i feel like typing something, anything. hence this thread.
May 13, 2008 09:14 pm I was thinking you might have needed a Valium after reading the thread last night.
Kidding of course.
May 14, 2008 05:50 am i'm in a happy mood, learning to chain vocal VSTs together.
let me run a sample chain by ya. is there anything wrong with this?
mic modeler (any of several types)
amp modeler (any)
compressor
parametric EQ
chorus
reverb
would you change the order here? if so how and why?
May 14, 2008 02:57 pm Quote:
oh well, can't control the economy from firefox.
that's my vote for quote of the week.
May 14, 2008 07:52 pm forty, that is perfect oder for those. I never compress after chorus or reverb.
And EQ is normally best pre effects like chorus and reverb as well.
That is a fine chain just as is. I would not change a thing. I would just be careful with adding reverb after a chorus as a chorus can induce a slight delay if cranked up and can cause some wicked reverb tails if using a large reverb.
May 14, 2008 08:03 pm I would throw a deesser in there forty...
May 15, 2008 03:06 am coolo, i've been playing with spitfish, from digitalfishphones, but when i turn it on, it instantly destroys all my other effects and gives me a totally flat sound. reverb goes away, the whole feel changes. why would it do that? changing the preset or changing the dials doesn't seem to do anything.
noize, you think i should place the reverb before the chorus? my one complaint is that i am indeed getting a lot of sibilance of the sort that would seem to call for a de-esser. (and when i say a 't' sound, like in the word 'to,' it sounds like a whipcrack.)but since spitfish is destroying everything, what i did instead was simply remove a lot of frequencies way back in the chain, with the EQ. vast reductions, actually. it takes care of the sibiliance and my t's sound very close to normal now, and somehow the vocals still sound clear and bright! in spite of the fact that i've drawn some rather extreme curves. the result is pretty good, but i feel a twinge of weirdness that i'm sucking so much out of the signal. i basically don't understand how i can use such a big axe on the vocals and still have them come out ok. it's just something i'm wondering about.
May 15, 2008 12:08 pm Hmmm, I don't know about the forty...that's weird! I might see if there were any other de-essers out there that work better, I guess.
May 15, 2008 08:54 pm I can't remember if I ever tried one after a reverb. I think it might mess up the verb a bit but you can give it a shot.
My main concern was just to be careful how much chorus you used as with a heavy reverb it could give it an unwanted ringing type tail
I'm thinking with the chorus after the reverb it might twist it up either nicely or way out there. If your into experimenting I would say give it a shot with like a 2 voice at first. and then if you have like a 4 voice or more try that and see. It might actually give it a really deep out there effect.
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