Feb 20, 2008 09:55 pm I've never tried, but im guessing some very surgical application of eqing and compression could eliminate some of the echo and reverb, but the general concensus is that its not 100 percent achievable.
Echo removal
Posted on Feb 20, 2008 07:47 pm
Zeigs87
Member Since: Aug 06, 2007
I just have 2 quick questions. Is there a plugin for sonar to remove room echo in already recorded drums?
Also what are good compression plugins?
Thanks guys
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Feb 20, 2008 09:55 pm I've never tried, but im guessing some very surgical application of eqing and compression could eliminate some of the echo and reverb, but the general concensus is that its not 100 percent achievable.
Feb 21, 2008 06:03 am I'd try an expander or gate on single drums, and rolling-off low frequencies in overheads.
Feb 21, 2008 07:35 am as far as compressors:
the reaplugs from reaper are VST plugs, which contain reacomp and reaxcomp. Both are right dandy.
reaper.fm/reaplugs/
Scott stillwell has some great stuff, shareware:
www.stillwellaudio.com
There's also the khjaerhus classic series. I've used them a bunch, but like the reaper stuff much better.
www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php
Feb 21, 2008 12:28 pm Just thinking out loud here, but would copying the track, reversing the phase on the copy, and then some eq tweaking work? Never tried it for echo, but sometimes that trick can work to get rid of extraneous noise. What do I know? It's a tough one. A perfect example of why clean audio in is always a good idea.
Okay, obligatory plug for my favourite er ... plugs: Antress Modern series. Has a great compressor. The kjaerhusaudio classic compression served me well for a long time, but the Antress has the edge to my ears. CPU hog alert.
Feb 21, 2008 01:14 pm If the problem is echo then you may be able to remove it by gating. However you may be talking about reverb in which case you would have a hard time removing it as reverb is a basic characteristic of the sound.
Feb 22, 2008 03:15 am I don't think you can completely remove it, but you can minimize some of the tail by using compression and experimenting with the attack and especially the release times.
Feb 24, 2008 06:40 pm could you use reverse gate?
Feb 24, 2008 10:21 pm What version of Sonar are you using? If it is 7 PE then you have one of the most killer compressor's on the market right no in the VC 64 that came with it.
Feb 25, 2008 05:01 am I'm using sonar 6 PE. After figuring it out a little, the compressor seemed to work out ok. I don't know what a better compressor would do I got a little help on compressing drum with that and they sound a lot better than before.
I also found out the "echo" i was getting was due to the drummer not putting on a dampener on the snare and was just the snare ringing out horribly. To try and salavage my original recording of the drums i used a gate to remove the echo. It did work however it made it sound fake and cut off.
I apprieciate the tips guys.
Mar 04, 2008 07:29 pm A compressor will NOT remove reverb. In fact it's likely to make the reverb LOUDER. The tool to use would be a gate but even then the sound would be very unnatural. Particularly if you're talking about removing reverb from a stereo mix. Individual tracks, maybe. Overheads, highly unlikely. You will find that removing the reverb will also remove the tail on cymbals otherwise the verb will still be very much present in the overheads.
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