Speaker Placement

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My boss has a home stereo system that he setup and he placed and he has a X-over setup 2-way for Lows/Mid-Highs. He placed the 2 Subs next to each other in a corner, but my concern is that he placed the 4 mid/high speakers in the 4 corners of the room all aimed in towards the center of the room. Isn't it a bad idea to aim speakers at each other??

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 20, 2008 12:04 pm

At very high volumes it could be a problem, but not at comfortable listening levels.

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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Feb 20, 2008 12:10 pm

Personally I wouldn't have it setup like that but as dB mentioned it won't be an issue unless cranked and then you would get some phase cancellation. However, for an optimum sound experience you should have them placed almost straight forward. This will create more separation when listening to surround sound.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 20, 2008 12:19 pm

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't recommend the setup, if you are listening to loud action movies and trying to get the whole surround sound thing going, it'll be lousy...

The subs should also be apart, aiming different directions, not because the sound is directional (that low of sound typically isn't) but because two subs in the room can actually compliment each other greatly and lessen the "boom" by smoothing out the sound...

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Since: Feb 05, 2008


Feb 20, 2008 12:20 pm

if your boss is adventurous, he should put one of those subs INSIDE his couch. my brother did this and you haven't seen jurrasic park until you have a woofer rumbling all around you!


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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Feb 20, 2008 12:22 pm

me and a former roommate put his subs under our futon/couch, yeah, it was awesome.

I ripped my subwoofer apart, took out the two speakers and mounted them in a nice box I built underneath our fireplace hearth when it was being built, with one going to the left and one to the right, and it sounds awesome.

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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Feb 20, 2008 12:40 pm

lol - I remember seeing a sub system attached to a couch. Actually it was not really a sub as it didn't use a speaker. Instead it had these shaker arms attached directly to the couch.

EDIT: Here's one appropriately called the ButtKicker www.hometheaterhifi.com/v...it-12-2004.html


http://myhometheater.homestead.com/files/shakers2_thumb.jpg


Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Feb 20, 2008 12:53 pm

Definitely odd. For surround sound configs you would normally have the front speakers facing straight out and the rear speakers facing towards you. Here is a 5.1 setup as I understood it and currently have configured at home. With two subs you can do front\rear or left\right. I would never sit them by each other though.

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/129026.jpg



Haha, I was looking for proper speaker placement pics and this came up saying "never do this!!!"

http://www.wendycarlos.com/surround/a)srndsm.jpg


Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Since: Jun 24, 2004


Feb 20, 2008 01:09 pm

My receiver came with a handy little microphone that you set up in your favourite listening position and hit a button. It calibrates all the speakers for optimum surround sound. Very cool.

Of course, you can use a dB-Meter and calibrate things yourself, but this is dead easy, and very accurate.

Czar of Turd Polish
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Since: Jun 20, 2006


Feb 20, 2008 01:15 pm

That is way cool chap, I know how speaker placement goes but adjusting the levels of your rear vs. front vs. center can be daunting. What receiver just curious?

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Feb 20, 2008 03:57 pm

If the unit is truly only stereo then no, it is OK to do that. The only thing you need to do is check that both the lefts and the rights are facing each other.


Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Since: Jun 24, 2004


Feb 20, 2008 04:06 pm

It's a Sony something-or-other...It's a 5.1 digital with iddy biddy likkle speakers and a big ol' powered sub.

My old one I used to calibrate by ear. Great if you have a spare hour to spend. With the Sony you hit the button and it takes about 30 seconds. Must love white noise.....

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Feb 20, 2008 04:22 pm

Oh I'm sorry Tall Chap, I was answering mcilr9's question. But I know what you mean with the set-up.

I use to take my Smaartlive rig over to peoples houses. They would always ask me if the pink noise was necessary. And does it have to take so long?

It's like, do you want it done or not? Well then leave me alone!

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Feb 20, 2008 04:23 pm

Yeah my Sony 6.1 receiver has the auto-calibration mic as well. My in-laws got a Yamaha receiver that has the same feature. I think they're becoming commonplace in modern home theater receivers.

That ButtKicker is sold in musicians catalogs, marketed towards drummers. It's used to enhance their feel of the beat, helping them play in the pocket. I would have thought that the tactile response of the drums themselves would do that...

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Feb 20, 2008 04:29 pm

Oh God, the Buttkicker. We have several at our shop. We call them the a****** pucker. You get that thing moving around 60hz, and you won't go for about a week!

One of the guys I work with, has it in his chair at home for his system. He loves it. I won't sit in that chair!

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Feb 21, 2008 08:18 am

thanks for the input guys. I probably should have been more clear. This is not a Surround Sound System, he likes to host kick a$$ parties and this is more a DJ setup. He has 2 AMPS running his 18" Mackie Subs and 4 [I would guess 8" or 10"] speakers mounted at the ceiling in each corner facing in towards each other. The entire room is basically a marble floor dance floor, with a little bar in one corner. When he is having a party it is at LOUD levels and everything is Dance/Party Mix Bass intensified. He should aim these speakers out and across the dance floor right??

The Czar of BS
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Since: Dec 31, 2007


Feb 21, 2008 05:38 pm

Yes. Both lefts should face one another, and both rights should face one another. Crossing the dance floor.

In other words, stand in the corner that the first left speaker is in. Look across the dance floor to the other corner. That is where the other left should be. And vise versa with the rights.

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Since: Feb 07, 2005


Jun 02, 2008 04:16 pm

Hey all, a buddy of mine is looking for a diagram or guide to properly setting up a 7.1 system. Do you guys know of a good link?

Thx

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jun 04, 2008 09:24 pm

BH, I'll try and find the place I used to get a lot of info from tomorrow evening. I'm busting my but cleaning down here. Just taking a snaity break to come and read some email's from HRC though.

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