Jan 07, 2008 12:00 am Hey Luis, only the 2 XLR connections have built in pre-amps so you will have to either use those channels or you will need to get a pre-amp in front of the RCA channels.
M-Audio Delta 1010lt
Posted on Jan 06, 2008 11:26 pm
Luis
Member Since: Aug 11, 2007
i tried recording my Snare through a mic that is connected direclty through my M-audio's Rca input
i get very low levels when i record through its RCA inputs. How do I solve this?
tnx!
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Jan 07, 2008 12:00 am Hey Luis, only the 2 XLR connections have built in pre-amps so you will have to either use those channels or you will need to get a pre-amp in front of the RCA channels.
Jan 07, 2008 06:33 am tnx for the reply Beer Hunter!
does a "volume booster" exists?
pre amps are expensive, is there an Available gadget that has a single function of boosting an input level?
Jan 07, 2008 07:34 am heh, yeah, it's called a preamp.
And there's 2 you already own, on the end of the 2 xlr connectors on your 1010lt.
The 1010lt doesn't provide phantom power, so be aware should you be using condenser microphone. Dynamic mic doesn't need phantom power, so it should work fine.
The art tube mp preamp has been seen for 29$us in places. This device will provide phantom power.
www.zzounds.com/item--ART127
39$us here on zzounds.
Jan 08, 2008 06:00 am what about mixers? what kind of mixer should i use to record channels seperately through my 1010lt?
Jan 08, 2008 10:18 am I use a yamaha MG16/4, which I used with my 1010lt as well. It has 8 preamp inputs (or 10, I can't remember). The 12/4 or 12/2 would work as well.
Just have xlr inputs, for each analog input on the 1010lt (there's 8).
I then connect from my channel insert, over to the RCA input on the 1010lt. Using channel inserts as direct outs works great, but only put the 1/4" jack in to the first click, not all the way in.
I've been doing things this way for a few years, and it's been working great.
Jan 08, 2008 05:05 pm Yeah, but you'll only get a few separate tracks, plus I think there's only 2 xlr inputs.
Yep, just looked. So you could have 2 mics going into the built-in premaps (dynamic), plus 2 going into the mixer, then over to the 1010lt. That'd make 4 incoming signals on their own tracks.
Here's the first berry mixer with 6 xlr inputs:
www.behringer.com/1222FX/index.cfm?lang=eng
It has sub groups too.
Behringer doesn't have the greatest reputation, but a lot of people on here use them all the time without problem, though some have had troubles.
That's why I went the Yamaha route. I'm on my second 16/4 (first one burned in housefire), and have had good results.
Jan 09, 2008 12:57 pm its an 8 input mixer, that includes 2 xlr plus 6 1/4 inputs.
it also has 2 1/4 outputs for the phones.
plus i noticed 4 more 1/4s
whats that for? cant i use that as an ouput?
Jan 09, 2008 01:35 pm A microphone won't put out signal large enough for your mixing and components. That's where the preamp comes in.
So each mic has to have a preamp, to boost the signal up to LINE level. MIC level signal is way too small.
Some audio interfaces will have some (or all) preamps built in. Look up MOTU 8Pre, and presonus firepod for examples.
In this case, it wouldn't make sense to use the mixer, if you're not using the preamps. You would need the mixer for it's preamps, then output each channel over to your interface inputs.
I hear what you're thinking: "man, i wish there was a cheaper, easier way".
I think, figure around 40$ a preamp, no matter which way you go, either in a mixer, or standalone preamps (the art ones).
Course, that's the bottom of the range. Quality and price goes up from there.
Jan 10, 2008 12:28 am i think id go for stand alone preamps
can a guitar or bass guitar pre-amp serve as a vocal pre-amp?
Jan 10, 2008 07:55 am Actually, the levels aren't the same. Guitar puts out (i think) slightly higher level than a mic. That's why on many preamps, there's a switch for mic or guit, meaning the preamp circuitry is different for both.
My personal opinion, is that if you're watching your levels, you can do this. The mic may not be loud enough to get clean signal into the guit preamp, but it's worth a try.
MAudio has a 2 channel preamp, the audio buddy, that gets pretty good reviews:
www.zzounds.com...item--THKMIMAB0
Shennanigans is selling his mg16/4 in the classified section:
www.homerecordingconnecti...w_ad&id=227
This will net you more preamps than you need, plus you get the routing flexibility of have a mixer.
Jan 10, 2008 10:51 am Why wouldn't you just use the built-in pre-amps on the 1010LT? At least hear if they deliver adequate results.
Jan 10, 2008 12:32 pm Yeah, you have to, if you want to utilize those two channels. You can't bypass the preamps, and just use line in.
Somewhat of a limitation.
I always had 2 mics plugged directly into the card, and the other 6 plugged into the mixer.
On my ESP1010, I can use the first two preamps, or line in. Either or.
Jan 11, 2008 05:32 am In the Delta Control Panel, Hardware settings, right side, there are sliders which allow you to raise and lower the input and output signal it will accept.
Lowering the level on the XLR inputs makes the 1010LT more sensitive to a lower input level.
Try playing with it, it does work.
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