last thread guys and i wont bother you anymore..what about this setup
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Dec 07, 2007 12:51 pm Oh, once you get the gear, thats just the beginning, you'll be back...it's not a bother, it's what a message forum is for.
I still don't understand your choices, though...you should research that mixer more, it looks great, it also appears to have everything you need right there...based on the "4-band EQ and dynamics on each input channel" phrase it appears to have compressors on each channel already, and it presumably has preamps as well...(I assume)...so why even buy all that other stuff until you at least try the mixer by itself...
Unless you just have too much money and feel like you have to spend it.
Dec 07, 2007 12:52 pm I just double checked, and yes, that mixer has compression, gating and EQ as well as Reverb...and it has 16 preamped mic inputs as well...
Dec 07, 2007 12:54 pm i want to make a great studio so money is not an issue..i ve done my research and preamps are a very important thing in a studio even if the mixer has some..so you say i dont need the compressors/preamps if i get the tascam mixer?to use olny the mixer and the direclty to my motu?
Dec 07, 2007 01:01 pm Well, of course preamps are important, my point is you haven't even listened to any of this gear yet and you automatically assume the Tascam unit won't be good enough.
Go ahead, whatever, spend yourself silly. It just makes absolutely no sense to me to buy gear without hearing it and plan some gear isn't up to the task without hearing it. It's wasteful as hell, if you want to spend lots of money, great, but still, spend it wisely...you haven't even mentioned room acoustics yet, all the cables to connect the stuff...
It just makes no sense to me at all...I'll let somebody else deal with it.
Dec 07, 2007 01:07 pm so you suggest to get the tascam and the motu and if i am not satisfied i can get some compressor/preamps right?
but its not good to pass the mics from tou preamps right?so if i get later some tube preamps and then pass them to the mixer wich it has allredy preamps maybe it would make my result worse right?
the rooms is soundproofed by profesionals..and i i am thinking the mics go to the mixer with xlr cables and the mixer to the motu with adat connection..that should do it i think....
Dec 07, 2007 01:11 pm I didn't say anything about sound proofing, I was talking about room tuning.
If you are running thru an outboard preamp you'd want to either run that signal right to the interface and NOT go thru the mixer at all, or plug it in to the line in of the channel on the mixer, not the mic in.
I'm not suggesting anything else, as it's doesn't matter anyway, somebody else, I am sure will chime in...
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Since: Jun 20, 2006
Dec 07, 2007 01:14 pm One thing to remember, there is soundproofing and then there is sound treatment. Treatment is definitely the bigger issue for the end result. On the gear, I can't say anything either. If I had that mixer and Motu that would be plenty for my tasks.
Dec 07, 2007 01:20 pm so u say that these to things are enough to make a start?and i dont need preamplifications and compressors?
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Dec 07, 2007 01:28 pm Beings the Mixer has pre's and compression among other effects built in, I would at least try it first to see how they sound. They may be very high quality and sound fantastic. Reducing the signal chain is a good thing imo.
Mic->Tascam->Motu = pretty straightforward setup, would give you 16 channels at once and will probably sound fantastic.
Honestly the pro sound is going to come later but as long as the captures are clean, don't clip, and have a good strong signal, then a proper mixing and mastering should return radio quality results imo.
Dec 07, 2007 01:35 pm thanx about your help you guys let me ask you..do you worked with protools?
if i get this
www.thomann.de/gr/digidesign_protools_mh192.htm
and i great mac it would make my life easier and i ll have better sound?"why the heck digidesign and pro tools stuff are so expensive? and that audio interface how many inputs does it have?as many as the mixer u put it in to?
Dec 07, 2007 01:36 pm DON'T get sucked in to the ProTools crowd, it'll be nothing but time, frustration and money...Sonar, Cubase, Neundo and others all do the exact same stuff, and generally easier too.
PT sucks ***.
in my opinion.
Dec 07, 2007 01:42 pm yeah,,,i think so too..its not the interface and the program that makes the sound.is how good are the mics the acoustics and what preamps and mixer you pass them to ..to finaly go to the interface so i dont see the point of spend all that money to get the same sound as a result..i think a great mixer and a great sound card will be fine
Dec 07, 2007 01:44 pm one more thing..the tascam it has preamps but isnt a tube preamp/compressor better?so if it pass trought a tube preamp/compressor and the the mixer preamps and eq and finally the interface wont make it sound great?
Dec 07, 2007 01:45 pm The sound is in the engineer and the musicians...a great engineer can make a great sound with an SM57 and a 4 track cassette deck...a half-assed engineer with top notch equipment will still make half-assed recordings.
Dec 07, 2007 02:30 pm i agree to that and i am so commited to do the best work and i know nuendo like the back of my hand and from crappy mics and just a firepod i made a krappy band sound like lamb of god but i dont want to use to much plugins i just want to keep the tracks clean and add them the plugins they need..so i want to record as far and clean soun take in mind that most of my clients will play rock and metal..thats why i ask you guys .i a am a guitarist sto i know many things about amps guitars and how to record in nuendo..the only thing i dont know is about equipment.. and its strange to me that you can me a good studio with only an mixer and an audio interface..well knowdays we have the digital option so we dont need to many things but still it sounds to me weird...
Dec 07, 2007 02:38 pm I never said that is all you'll ever need, I have been saying that's where you should start, and let needs dictate your future purchases.
However, yes, due to the fact much of the work is done in the computer, you don't need to have as much outboard gear, and outboard gear is getting smaller as well.
Dec 07, 2007 02:44 pm yeah i realized that,,i know that the mixer and audio interface is the basic things to get me started but i dont think that will be enough...i ll head the sound of them and i ll decided...but the only things tha maybe i need afterwards is some preamps/compressors ..i dont think that i need any more gear to make my studio.all the rest i think i can do it from the pc
