Dec 07, 2007 06:01 am yes you do. compression in the software is often time too late, you need to compress BEFORE the signal gets digitized.
do i need a compressor?
Posted on Dec 07, 2007 05:58 am
capellino
Member Since: Dec 06, 2007
guys do i need a external compressor for a pro studio?can i do the same things from nuendo 4?i think with a good mixer .preamp and audio interface i am set to go for the basic equipment..arent i?
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Dec 07, 2007 06:01 am yes you do. compression in the software is often time too late, you need to compress BEFORE the signal gets digitized.
Dec 07, 2007 06:17 am so let me ask you..whats the connections?
mics>preamp>compressor>mixer>audiointerface>cpu?
do i need anything else?
Dec 07, 2007 06:39 am or its better to to purchase i mixer or i mic preamp that its also a compressor?
for example the focusrite liguid chanell
www.thomann.de/gr/focusrite_liquid_channel.htm
Dec 07, 2007 06:45 am the focus right liquid channel is a nice bit of kit. Keep in mind though, that as nice as outboard pres are (and they are. The quality of your sound boils down to the quality of your mic and your pre), they can only be used on one or two tracks at a time.
Dec 07, 2007 06:55 am listen..lets say i have a great neumann mice..its goingo first in the pre..then the compressor then the mixer and finaly in the audio interface ok?
should i ger seperate equpment or should i get a preamp whos also a compressor or a mixer whos also a audio interface like the yamaha n 12?i am so comfused
what a super killer setup for a pro recording studio?
i thought with the yamaha v16 the motu hd896 and some good preamps like the focusrite red 1 who is a tube preamp or the rme micstasy i am set to go arent i?damn that music bussines its hard
Dec 07, 2007 08:00 am I typically use compressors in an aux loop of a mixer, not directly in the signal line...
Dec 07, 2007 08:15 am the extrenal compressor that i put on the mixer works for all the mics that goes into the mixer or juist for one or some ?
Dec 07, 2007 08:17 am it works for whichever ones you send thru it's aux loop...
Dec 07, 2007 08:20 am can from one compressor to send the to all 16 mics that i ll have in the mixer for example?
Dec 07, 2007 08:25 am Yeah, you can, but the signal then will be mixed going to the interface. You are best off having a compressor for each signal that needs it.
I run with the aux loop cuz I typically record one or two tracks at a time...since you are going to run many more, I should have adjusted my advice to suit...in your case I'd use a compressor in a channel insert to keep each track individual. My mistake there...sorry. That will increase cost a lot.
Dec 07, 2007 08:27 am sounds like you could use a few of these www.zzounds.com/item--ART131 then get a simple, no preamp interface.
Dec 07, 2007 08:30 am so you are saying to get a compressor for each input..lets say if i want to record rehershals i dont mind if i dont have the best sound .bu lets say i record a band for a song..the most mics i need is when i record the drums..wich i use 8 mics.
do you mean that i need 8 diffrent compressors?isnt there a compressor that can handle 8 different tracks?or 4?so i ll get two compressors and not 8
Dec 07, 2007 08:35 am I have never used an 8 in 1 type compressor. I am sure they are out there, but I never used one...most stereo compressors double as two monos, so that would get you down to four units needed.
That said, not every mic would necessarily need compressing, it could just be needed on the kick, snare and vocals, maybe more, maybe less.
Dec 07, 2007 08:37 am www.motu.com/products/pciaudio/24IO/
isnt that a good choice?that motu?
so from the mics to go to the tube preamp/compressor in to the mixer with no preamps and then in the motu with no preamps?
Dec 07, 2007 10:04 am Presonus makes a decently reviewed 8 in 1 compressor, the ACP88. I think one thing with having seperate compressors per channel is the fact that you do not apply the same compression to all instruments. I tend to compress the kick pretty hard, leave the toms a lot of room to breath, pretty heavy on the snare and a tiny bit on the OH's.
Now I have done an "overall" compression to the whole kit and it sounds good, just in a different style. I personally like applying compression per channel. Crappy thing for me is, I still do it through software after everything is recorded. Oh well, you do what you can with the gear you have.
Dec 07, 2007 11:12 am and its not the same sound to compress from a hardware then from a software later eh?its best to get a compressor than to compress after in nunedo right?
so u are too suggesting to get differnet compressors? i think i ll get a great one compressor/preamp like the AVALON VT-737SP
for vox and kick and snare and quitars and some little ones for the rest of the drum kit sounds good?
www.thomann.de/gr/avalon_...signal_pfad.htm
Dec 07, 2007 11:18 am It's not always a matter of what it sounds like, with the difference between hardware and software it's more (at least to me) about the reason for the compression. With a snare, for example, sure, it fattens up the sound and whatnot, but, it also keeps the track from clipping...and if you want to do that you'll have to compress BEFORE it gets to the interface, because once it's recorded clipped you'll never get rid of it unless you go thru a redraw the waveform for each strike that clips.
I use the hardware compressors more as virtual limiters just to keep the clips out, then use the software compressors for sound shaping during mixdown and mastering.
Dec 07, 2007 01:19 pm Outboard compressors help you capture a nice loud, clean signal without clipping if used as a limiter like DB stated. Without outboard compression you end up recording a quiter signal to avoid clipping. This in turn affects your signal to noise ratio. Once again, for my projects it is not horrible, but I bet my recordings will improve drastically once I get me that ACP88.
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