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Posted on Nov 24, 2007 01:55 pm
RandalMcFloyd
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I'm shopping for a guitar right now. I like the electric hollow body sound and I'd like to have a list of electric solid body guitars that can compare to that sound. Just give me some suggestions to try at a store. Thanks.
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 24, 2007 02:30 pm None!
You really can't duplicate that sound unless it is a hollow body guitar. That is actually what gives it that sound, the hollow body. A solid body will not do that.
A semi hollow will come close but still not on the mark.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 24, 2007 04:34 pm Not even a solid body guitar with humbucker pickups could come close?
Nov 24, 2007 04:54 pm Try a Line 6 Variax, it can sound like loads of different guitars, some good some bad, but judge for yourself.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 24, 2007 05:06 pm I've heard good things about the Variax as far as its electronics but as far as quality I've heard nothing but bad. There's no way I'm going to even consider it.
Nov 24, 2007 05:09 pm Interesting, I love mine...I wouldn't recommend the lowest priced one cuz it sucks as far as the guitar itself goes, but the more costly one's are very nice. Mine is one of the best playing guitars I have ever owned.
But then, if you are not even going to consider trying one, I guess that's your loss.
Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
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Nov 24, 2007 10:22 pm Yeah, the Line 6 Variax was the best guitar I ever had; could emulate just about any guitar I wanted when used right along with my outboard effects. As far as quality, they're top notch in my opinion. I never had a problem with mine. As far as it getting stolen, thats another story :(
If you're looking for the ultimate in guitar modeling without any external hardware/ software, get you a Variax. Treat it like a vintage Les Paul and you'll never have an issue with it, EVER. Treat it like a grunge Tele, and you'll have problems. Still the best guitar I ever bought- someone out there thinks it to be the best guitar they ever stole!! I'm still saving up for another one though. I recommend it highly.
Nov 24, 2007 10:23 pm I love my Variax also, the quality is excellent especially when compared to cheaper or similar priced guitars.
Check out RondoMusic for guitars, great prices, you could afford two.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 25, 2007 06:12 pm Ok, I love the Gibson Les Paul but that's just too much money for me. I tried an Epiphone Les Paul and liked it too but I was told that its quality is very low (so not the greatest sound at that price level and not going to last very long). Is this true?
I was recommended the Paul Reed Smith (don't remember which one) instead of the Epiphone Les Paul. The guy (and this was at Guitar Center by the way) said that it was close to that sound but much much better quality. He also recommended Schecter guitars. Is he right?
So I tried both of them instead. I liked them but just not as much as the Epiphone Les Paul. My problem is that I don't want to buy a guitar that isn't good quality but I also don't want to buy one I don't like the sound of as much. So any advice? Any other options?
ALl of these were from $400 - $500 just to let you know.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
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Nov 25, 2007 07:34 pm There are several hollow bodies and semi-hollows in that price range:
- Epiphone Dot
- Epiphone Casino
- Ibanez Artcore
- Schecter has a semi-hollow I believe
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 25, 2007 07:53 pm Actually I was meaning solid body.
Nov 25, 2007 09:22 pm I already advised Rondomusic.com They are VERY highly rated. They have a great return policy to offset the mailorder.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 26, 2007 07:01 pm Could someone just tell me the quality difference between the Epiphone Les Pauls, Schecter C-1, and Paul Reed Smith SE? This is just quality wise, not opinion wise.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 26, 2007 09:54 pm The PRS SE series is their lower end guitar. Not lower end quality wise. These are still made custom by hand, no corner's being cut by that company. Quality wise, they are probably a bit above either Epi or Schecter. Although both Epi and Schecter do have a custom hand built department, it won't be on their lower priced guitars.
And which of the SE line are you looking at? There are several to choose from.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 27, 2007 05:47 pm I was looking at the singlecut.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 27, 2007 10:11 pm Ah yes, I like that one myself. Don't own one but have played a few of them. They are a very comfortable guitar. And the sound is of course very nice.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Nov 27, 2007 11:22 pm In your opinion would you say it leans more towards Fender sound or Gibson sound?
I personally have played them and like Epiphone Les Pauls more. Is the quality difference so profound between the Epiphone Les Paul and PRS Singlecut that I should rethink which to buy?
Also, which one would be better for playing alternative/indie-rock, eerie sounding minor chords, or screechy Modest Mouse licks?
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
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Nov 28, 2007 11:58 am I'd suggest going to a store and doing a direct A/B comparison.
I have a Schecter Omen which I absolutely love - the scale is very important to me too. The Pups are not the best in the world, but the overall quality is sound. There's nothing at all wrong with the Epiphone line at all. Remember John Lennon used to play one and he could have played anything he wanted!
The PRS SE series look very cool, although I haven't tried one yet (I do covet that twin P90s one with the little scratchplate, and I like the look of that Tremonti and the Santana versions). PRS do make very nice guitars.
Again, go try them both and see what works for your hands and ears. The only thing you may have to look out for is scale length. I'm not a fan of the Gibson scale, like the Fender scale, and LOVE the Schecter scale (which I think - I haven't checked my facts here - is based on the PRS scale). It just works for me.
The sound and note articulation is going to be a combination of things - scale length, tunings, fingers, amp/effects, and your particular playing style. Go try 'em all, and don't get influenced by brand names or fashion.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 28, 2007 03:18 pm Randal, I would say it probably would not. My personal opinion is a person needs to buy or use what is comfortable and sounds good to them. An example is my Behringer Desk. I know lots of snob's that would just turn their nose up if they had to mix on a Berry. And although I have access to bigger better, or more expensive desk's and could easily afford to put on in here. I don't. The money I did not spend on the desk can go elsewhere and benefit those that I work for.
And I have played both guitars, and while my taste in the sound is different from yours it is probably more the feel for me. Epi makes damn good guitars, or they would not still be making them. So to cut it short. If you like the sound and feel of the Epi then I would honestly say don't turn to the PRS and spend the extra cash on something that isn't necessary.
Hope that helps ya a bit. And just so you know, I have owned tons of different guitars over the years, liked some and hated some. In the end I bought a used Ibanez and completely rebuilt it to suit my personal needs. It is now named Frankenstein because it is a kind of monster. But I can get just about any tone I wish from a strat or tele sound to a Paul or SG and just about anything in between. No hollow body sound though.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Nov 28, 2007 03:32 pm Gretsch has a nice line of semi-hollows in the 4-500 range. Some with Bigsby's on em. I want one.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Nov 28, 2007 10:14 pm Ya, I used to play a Gretsch Tennessee Gentleman from the 60's. That Bigsby was so hard to keep in tune. I am sure they have improved it since then though. But it had more switches and knobs on it and the tone was out of this world. Played it through an old Twin Reverb head running a Bassman cabinet. It was killer sounding for the day.
RandalMcFloydI wish I had a profile pictureInactive
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Dec 01, 2007 01:48 pm Ok, so you can get alot of sounds out of a PRS but what kind of music was it designed to play?
Dec 01, 2007 03:32 pm The telecaster thinline, (semi hollow) is capable of a bit of both worlds. I had one back in the late 70's. That guitar taught me a little about controlling feedback. As will any hollow body I would guess. But a nice guitar it was.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Dec 01, 2007 06:32 pm What kind of music wasn't it designed to play is more the question.
I know metal guys that use Tele's and strats and jazz and blues guys that use Ibanez Universe guitars. When guitar makers design a guitar it isn't usually made to fit one genre.
5 and 6 string basses started out as jazz essentials and ended up in death metal and grindcore.
But to answer a bit more straight forward. It really was not designed with any genre in mind at all. Most PRS guitars are comfortable in any genre. It just really depends on the tone you are after. And PRS guitars can go from a twangy surf sound to a gut wrenching dropped tune sound.