Wireless Guitar
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Posted on Mar 07, 2007 12:22 am
amcolan
Member Since: Jan 24, 2007
Can anyone recommend a good high end wireless guitar system? The one I have now is a NADY, I spent around 200 and it seems to cause a lot of signal and tone loss.
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CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Mar 07, 2007 12:48 pm I have the previous generation of this model.
www.zzounds.com/a--884907/item--AKGWMS40PROGB
I swap transmitter batteries before every show and it's yet to cause me problems. The transmitter and reciever both have a gain knob, once these were dialed in I was quite happy with the sound. I also love how tiny the bug is.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Mar 07, 2007 01:17 pm Indeed, I looked at that one and it seems very similar in function/price. Only thing I liked about the AKG is that the plug swivels which helped on my ibanez where the plug is set into the body at an angle.
Mar 07, 2007 02:28 pm You're right...I'm seriously considering buying a Stratocaster, but then my wireless transmitter bud won't work. Definately a drawback!
DiemusikString benderMember
Since: Unknown
Mar 07, 2007 11:24 pm I dont think I have every played on a wireless that didnt have some sort of tone loss. Most of the time its a loss of high end. I've always just tried to play around it. The last two years that I played live I ditched the wireless setups all together.
Mar 08, 2007 07:56 am Everyone in my band uses these: www.zzounds.com/a--884907/item--SHUSLX14
We're all very happy with them. The only thing we changed was we got rid of the straight plugs and put on angled plugs. A pretty easy task if you're good with a solder gun. My favorite thing about it is that there are like 8 groups with 12 channels each, and the unit will automaticly select the best channel with the push of 2 buttons. Then with the push of one more button, it sets the channel on the transmitter. Pretty nifty. We've never had interference problems.
Mar 08, 2007 08:04 am I used a wireless a few times for my bass, I never really liked it. They loose a little range in the sound, you need a cord laying there anyway for emergencies...I just never dug the whole wireless thing.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 13, 2007 10:29 pm The only wireless rigs I ever used live were built by Charley Orr of Orr Guitars years ago. He built my first custom guitar the FireBitch and did all the custom pickups and electronics. He used to have a wireless rig back in the late 70's that was the size of a small matchbox. He could build them right into the guitar if you wanted. He built custom stuff for a lot of big names back in the day.
I tried several other wireless rigs and hated them all back then.
May 13, 2007 10:48 pm Noize2u, my name is Jeffery Haas.
I'm a DP and editor and in 1985 I visited Charley Orr's guitar shop and filmed some video for a documentary. The result was only about fifteen minutes long and the show aired on public access back in Santa Monica about six months later.
Now, in the age of the internet, I am attempting to revive this footage and add to it.
I've spoken with a few of Chuck's proteges and students in the intervening years.
I'm trying to secure a grant or some small amoutn of funding so that I can come back up to the Twin Cities and do an updated version.
I'd like to speak to as many people who knew Charley as possible.
Jeffery Haas
Deep Freeze Video
817-717-5605 skype
972-352-3645 cell
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 13, 2007 11:21 pm Hey there, welcome to HRc first off.
But indeed, I would be more then happy to help out. He was a bit ahead of his time and loved to experiment with stuff. As well as build some killer guitars and basses of the time. There were many times just sitting there drinking a few beers and pondering were he could go with the electric guitars. In my eyes back even before 85 he was a wizard. I'll try and get in touch with you in the next week or so.
In the meantime have a browse around here, sounds like you might have some interesting things to share.
Noize
May 14, 2007 12:36 am I just spoke to Don Stoyke tonight. He was one of Charley's students and now he owns a shop up in Moose Lake, MN. I think I'd like to post a short clip from the footage just to give you an idea of what I'm working with. He has the Jesse Ventura Machine Gun guitar hanging in the shop...he hadn't given it to Jesse yet, and he had a very strange bass that looked a lot like the Oldsmobile Rocket logo, and a bunch of others as well.
I photographed a lot of his works and also shot a segment of him going through the process of making a guitar step by step.
I read your post about The Firebitch...very very sad. I just don't understand how someone could get away with having such a unique guitar without it being recognized as stolen.
Dont worry about the bandwidth...I have plenty on my own server. Stay tuned.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 15, 2007 10:12 pm Hey Jeff, I look forward to seeing it.
Moose Lake, really. We are selling a lake place in a little town just west of Moose Lake. We will still be making trips all summer though moving some things out so I will have to stop by and check it out. You don't happen to have an address on it do you? I'm not sure if I ever met Don, and honestly don't remember Charley's apprentice at the time of buying that guitar. I think I still have a card from back then that might have his name on it as well, it was like 78 or so I think.
But indeed, my guess is it got stripped an painted and taken out of state. The original paint was called a Fire mist Burgandy. The guitar was one piece neck through and hardtailed. The neck was so thin front to back you really didn't need a whammy bar to do one hell of a drop bend on the neck.
May 16, 2007 11:30 am i rocked a wireless for awhile until i was at my first out of state gig and i jumped quickly which knocked my transmiter off my pants and sent it on a 4 foot drop off the stage...it went one way and the battery went another. it was dark and i had to end up scrambling to borrow a cable instead of hunting it down. never again!
Jun 27, 2007 08:31 pm Sorry it took me so long but I have finally posted a clip from the film I made in 1985.
Basically I want to sit down and film anyone and everyone who knew Charley, who worked with him or who owns one of his instruments or anyone who USED to own one.
I just think it would be another tragedy all over again if this gentle and kind craftsman's spirit and contribution to music was forgotten. In my mind he stands as a modern day Stradivarius. Charley was so far ahead of his time.
Here's the clip:
Here's the website for now:
deepfreezevideo.com/orr.html
Please have a heart because I just threw it together for now and I will definitely be improving it as time goes by.
I've received a lot of positive responses on the film idea.
I am totally serious about doing this and completing it.
Jeffery Haas
Mansfield TX
Jun 28, 2007 01:53 am just watch the vid with no sound and was moved!! very cool guy.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Jun 30, 2007 11:52 pm Jeez, is it OK for a grown man to cry. Just hearing his voice again sparked a case of the willy's here. I'm glad to see you have the Prince connection up there as well. I will certainly see if I can help you track down were that guitar is. I happen to have been in the shop when he started building that guitar, and he could not say who it was for. I was lucky enough to have jammed in that shop many times as well, on many different guitars and basses. His acoustics were fantastic, but his electrics were what caught my fancy for sure.
Jeff, feel free to email me and I'll be glad to take part and contribute what I can.
Seeing him in that video really set off some interesting memories for me, it was a whole different era back then. I'm just glad to have known him and been able to own some of his guitars.
WYD, he was a cool guy indeed. I brought him a Fender Jag, which some fool had routed a diamond, moon and spade into the body of it. I wanted to know what he could do to repair it. We had imbibed a couple of beers before I brought it in the door as Charlie liked to have one now and then. I went out to the car and brought the thing in. In front of me and my buddies he grabbed it out of the case and walked over to the band saw and proceeded to cut right through the body, strings and all. He walked back to me holding the neck of the damn thing and stated that was what he could do. Then he proceeded to tell me the neck was now my down payment on a one of a kind custom guitar from him. And he gave me one hell of a deal on it as well. Then we all laughed like hell after I almost lost it wondering what he was doing. And he was right, the guitar was worthless after being routed out like that so instead of freaking out, I got my first Orr custom built.
Aug 02, 2007 07:31 pm Noize2U I'd like to cordially invite you to join the Yahoo Group that I have set up specifically for the film documentary.
It is not a guitar or recording forum and it's not a very busy group either.
I don't intend to compete with your forum in any way, just want to get things together so that I can do this film.
Besides I will also gladly link your forum so that members will find it and I will also promote your forum if you'd like.
I would love for you to share your stories with the group and even better I would be honored if I could have you tell those stories on film.
groups.yahoo.com/group/orrguitars
Jeffery Haas
Deep Freeze Video
Mansfield Texas
972-352-3645 cell
My phone is always on.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Aug 04, 2007 10:38 pm Jeff, I'll pop on over this weekend or sometime during the week and join up. I'd be honored to share with the group. And I'm sure dB will love having you pop a link to HRC up there as well.
I'll be as much help with the little bits of info and stories I might have that will help you get it done. He was indeed a one of a kind guitar builder. And a good all around person as well.
Feb 13, 2008 10:47 pm Noize2u, guess what?
I'm now working on a trailer for the film, after having visited Minneapolis a few months ago. I filmed several hours of interviews, including Rikiey Roc, who definitely remembers the day Charlie sawed your guitar in half on the bandsaw.
As a matter of fact, "The Bandsaw Story" is apparently a classic piece of Chuck folklore.
I will be coming back to the Twin Cities AGAIN this summer and I'd very much like to interview you on film.
Please, please give me a call any time it is convenient for you. This project is moving along but it could move a lot better if you were a part of it!
Jeffery Haas
972-352-3645
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 13, 2008 11:19 pm Hey Jeff. I'll try and get in touch with you this weekend. Ya, that is a day that I will never forget as long as I live.
I'm surprised that story has lived this long with any but a few who were there. But it could very well have moved into the folklore category for sure as many of his odd doings might have.
Mar 07, 2008 01:27 pm Hi Jeff,
My name is Kurt Orr.....nephew of Chuck Orr. I was recently doing some searches for Orr Guitars and ran across some or your threads, videos, etc....I thought it was really cool. Recently I have been toying with the notion of trying to collect some of my uncles guitars and basses to have on display in my home. I noticed that you mentioned trying to reach and interview anyone who knew or was associated with my uncle. Well, my dad, Chet Orr is a no brainer. My dad raised us as he made a career out of music. Chet played the drums in a local Twin Cites band....the XL5. All of the guys in the band played Orr guitars. I can remember being at my uncles various shops as we were growing up and I got my first guitar (some piece of crap) my uncle took it and worked his magic on it and made it playable for a young kid of 9 or 10 years old. I can't play....but it makes for a great memory.
The thing I remember the most was that pain my Uncle went through when he was burglerized throughout the years.
I will keep an eye on this site and maybe we can talk again.
Kurt Orr
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 09, 2008 06:22 pm Hey Kurt, welcome to HRC by the way.
Glad you found us here. Jeff has a good start on the video with the clips he has. I'm very pleased someone is doing this piece on Charlie for sure. He was a blast to just hang out with and watch him work, or not work sometimes. Just to listen to some of his stories at times was great fun.
As you can see Jeff has a phone number listed to reach him at above.
Do keep an eye here as he stops by infrequantly, but does pop in.
May 01, 2008 05:44 pm Kurt and Noize2u I am so afraid that I will lose touch with the both of you unless I can establish some live contact.
Please if either of you have the time please feel free to call me at either
817-717-5605 or 972-352-3645...CALL ANY TIME at all.
I've been working on the film
and I need both of you in it, and Chet, and I need to get in touch with the both of you in person.
I'll be heading back up to the Twin Cities this summer to do some more filming and it would be tragic if I was unable to get with you guys for some interviews.
So please please, call me and let's establish something solid.
I promise that you will be glad that you did.
Here's the current promo trailer for the film:
May 01, 2008 06:07 pm Looks like I lucked out and found Chet in the phonebook. I don't know if I spoke with his daughter, his wife or a girlfriend but a rather pleasant lady told me she'd pass the message to him, and that yes this was the Chet Orr who was related to Charlie.
So now I'm waiting on pins and needles hoping to speak with Chet when he gets home.
Now all I have to do is get a hold of you guys.
May 01, 2008 06:28 pm I do believe Noize2u is out of town until Sunday(ish)...I'll give him a heads up on this if he calls me over the weekend.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 04, 2008 01:03 am Hey Jeff, I got home tonight and will try and buzz you tomorrow in the afternoon. I still have the email with your phones numbers and will surely get hold of you. I wold not miss adding my tiny little memories for the world. Besides, after hearing of the fact the tale of the bandsaw still lives to this day made me fully aware I had to do it, even for just a short clip.
I hope Kurt can participate as well. That would be the highlight of the film I think to have family in it.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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May 04, 2008 01:17 am Jeff, I just checked out the trailer. Had a real good chuckle listening to Rickie talk about taking a big gulp off a beer and then ramming a piece of wood right through the band saw and it coming out straight as an arrow. He is right though about there always being people just hanging around and shooting the bull. It was just that kind of place. You just don't see that kind of thing these days.
