Jan 14, 2007 04:31 pm As stated int he rules, critiques go in the music and composition forum.
Need mix comments/suggestions!!!
Posted on Jan 14, 2007 04:19 pm
[ins]anarchist
Master of the Obvious?
Member Since: Jun 29, 2004
I've been working on mixing this 25+ track monstrosity that my band has recorded, and I need some suggestions! I have no ego whatsoever, so if it sounds like butt please say so vividly, but also suggest improvements. I'm not a beginner, and for the most part I know my way around a DAW and/or mixing board, but I need someone else's ears to tell me how it's going. :)
insanarchist.shackspace.c...remix_song5.mp3
*edit: the main things I've noticed and am not sure how to fix are that all of the instruments sound separate: as in, you can hear each of them, but there's nothing really tying them together. If I boost the vocals much more than where they're at, they have the same problem :(
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Jan 14, 2007 04:31 pm As stated int he rules, critiques go in the music and composition forum.
Jan 14, 2007 04:35 pm Oh crap, sorry! Is there any way to move it?
Jan 14, 2007 04:36 pm Well then sweet! Thanks for the help :)
Jan 14, 2007 08:57 pm If I get some time tomorrow I'll give it a listen.
Jan 14, 2007 10:32 pm Not my kind of music so my comments may not apply. The mix feels very full in the middle but lacking in the bottom and top. Is that intentional?
Jan 15, 2007 04:56 am Ok, so the intro is intentionally thin on the lows yes? Then when it kicks in it fills out.
I can hear everything and think the mix levels are quite good, it just has the garage feel to it, which I actually kind of dig. Very 80's metal mix. I personally like to mix a little cleaner but think this fits your style.
Only things I noticed... At times, the drums (kick, toms, snare) seem a tad quiet. The vocals are just a tiny bit up front for me (not loud) and it seems like dudes right in front of me while the rest of the band is 20 feet back. Maybe a tiny verb to set it back in? Just a suggestion. This can work with many things actually, just enough so you can't even tell it's there, but if you turn it off you notice. This can help blend things together, but too much creates a mess.
And on a positive note, damn fine guitar work. The musicianship is very tight all around and the song is actually very good.
I give it two horns up.
Jan 16, 2007 12:55 am Thanks for the compliments and suggestions :) I (apparently) have a habit of too much midrange in my guitars, which is pretty un-common for metal apparently. I'm trying to figure out how to give the toms/snare/bass more life, but I think the original tracks could have been better-recorded. The drummer had really dull/thick heads on the toms, and I'm an idiot and I didn't mic the bottom head of the snare (Hey, I'm a n00b alright? haha). I'm wary of reverb, as the monitors I have don't sound like they're very accurate in reproducing it, and I'm extremely unexperienced when it comes to reverb.
Jan 16, 2007 05:10 am I wouldn't say midrange is uncommon for your style of metal, it's more trash to me. I think that fits well. The bottom end chunky stuff would not fit the style so much me thinks.
And yeah, on the drums, you can only polish a turd so much. If they were rough coming in you do what you can. I know of those heads, are they the black evans hydraulic? Those are super dull also.
I've never mic'd the bottom of my snare (never enough mics). lol.
Other than that, learn to play with the verb, it can be a great friend or worst enemy. Maybe not for this track, but in the future for sure. It really helps widen out drums and vocals, those are my main uses.
Jan 16, 2007 05:52 pm With slightly more refining and a little better drum micing (say with better mics for one hah), would you say I might be a good enough engineer to start recording other peoples' bands for simple, exceedingly cheap demos for myspace/ep's and stuff? Just to get my feet wet & pay for some of the equipment I'm about to buy?
Jan 16, 2007 05:56 pm Hmmm, that's up to the bands really, maybe on the cheap. I offer free recordings of 1 song for local bands just for the experience and so they have something for their myspace. If they are looking for an album I don't feel comfortable enough charging as I'm still a noob.
Jan 16, 2007 06:26 pm this is not a genre i'm very familiar with. But, i'll comment anyway. Guitars are panned too far out for my taste, especially during the intro when it's only in the left ear! Drums sit too far in the back ground in the mix compared to the guitars. Guitars are kind or overpowering everything else to me (except vocals). Not bad for a demo though.
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