M-Audio delta 1010lt multiple cards
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Posted on Dec 31, 2006 04:13 am
swervegarden jr
Member Since: Dec 31, 2006
i use a 1010lt to record multitrack into adobe audition... i want more inputs than the card has, so i was wondering if i could run two 101lt's in 1 pc... and if audition would recognize the difference between the 2... if not, does anyone know any soundcards with more inputs than the 1010lt? or software that would support 2 soundcards like this? thanks -Derek
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GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Dec 31, 2006 12:59 pm from M-audio
Q: How many Delta Series cards can be used in the same Computer?
A: In Windows, up to 4 Delta Series cards can be used at the same time. Up to 3 Delta Series cards can be used in Mac OS X when using the latest Delta Series driver. For Mac OS 9, a MultiCard driver for up to 3 Delta Series cards is available as a Beta-Version. The Linux OSS-driver supports up to 8 cards, if the necessary resources are available.
also check this out :
Delta Series, Multi-card setup
Syncing two Delta Series cards together
Configuring two or more Delta cards together can be done by linking the cards together through the use of external hardware lock via a 75-Ohm RCA SPDIF cable to allow synchronization between the cards.
The Basics:
When linking Delta cards, one card sends the master clock signal. The rest of the cards that are synced must receive signal from the card sending the signal. The S/PDIF connections on the sound cards are color coded for in and out. On the Delta series sound cards, the out is white and the in is red. SPDIF cables can be obtained from any Music Industry store or Home Stereo store.
Note about SPDIF cables, these cables are not the same type of cabling used for analog audio, the internal resistance of the cable is different than for analog audio. Although analog RCA may appear to work, it is not reliable. Examples of SPDIF cables can be found at www.hosatech.com
1. Connect the 75-Ohm cable from the out (white) S/PDIF connection of the card sending master clock to the in (red) connection of the receiving card. Each additional card must be hooked in a daisy chain type of configuration.
2. Open the M Audio Delta H/W. The installed sound cards will appear down the right hand side of the panel. Select the card sending master clock.
3. On the Hardware settings tab of the master card select “Internal Xtal” for the “Master Clock setting”. In the “MultiTrack Driver Devices”, please select “Single and In-Sync”.
4. On the Hardware settings tab of all other synced cards, select “S/PDIF in” for the “Master Clock setting”. In the “MultiTrack Driver Devices”, please select “Single and In-Sync”.
After these steps are taken, the hardware is configured for use. The only step left is setting up your application to use the additional card(s).
as for audition, i'm not sure . I'm not as familuar with adobe . I use Sonar and i've had 4 different interfaces hooked up at once.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 31, 2006 03:07 pm And I will add that if Adobe Audition does not support multiple cards, Sonar, Cubase and Logic all support multiple cards.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Dec 31, 2006 03:28 pm I'm running Sonar 6 now but I was using AA with 3 Delta cards (66 and two 44's) no problems.
Dec 31, 2006 06:31 pm i believe that audition does support multiple cards becuase while my 1010lt is in use, i can also select my motherboards card and use it at the same time... if not then new software... but so what your saying is in stead of putting card #2 in a pci slot on the motherboard, i just connect it to the word clock out of card#1? thanks alot dudes... -Derek
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 01, 2007 02:58 pm No, you will have to install the second PCI card as well. In some cases it is best to sync the 2 interfaces together using the word clock. In the case of the 1010lt you can sync them internally. Simply tell it in the software that interface 1 is the master recording and play back timing clock. And interface 2 is the slave.
Jan 01, 2007 09:58 pm great.. thanks alot everyone
KennyLMember
Since: Nov 03, 2007
Nov 03, 2007 05:40 am I have a Q. I have an ASUS PSW DH Deluxe motherbaord with on board HD surround sound. I use a 1010 and a 66 for input and am trying to set up the on board for sound out (I can use an optic link for killer surround sound). The problem is: when I enable the on baord, the 1010 and 66 don't work. When I disable the on board, the 1010 and 66 work fine. I am trying to set this up to allow the 1010 and 66 to be used only for in/out and have a seperate sound card (on board or other) for 5.1 surround sound out to my Sony sound system. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. K
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Nov 03, 2007 09:37 am hmmm, i'd guess that the board is giving IRQ to both Delta cards, and when you enable the Onboard chip, it's grabbing the IRQ, and the delta cards are left in the lurch.
I would use the 1010 outputs (there are 8 of them) for my surround. Just get adapters to convert from 1/4" to 1/8" (or whatever it needs).
Or, you can muck around with hard assigning IRQs to a PCI slot, or something similar. It can be a pain if you're not versed in MB bios / IRQ noodling.
KennyLMember
Since: Nov 03, 2007
Nov 03, 2007 06:19 pm Thanks for the info. I may try forcing the IRQ's but I may just get another 1010 and use it for the surround. I have jsut the 2 Delta's (1010 and 66) and can easily install one more. That also gives me an extra 2 outs.
Ken
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 04, 2007 11:53 am You would have plenty of outs with what you have. There really should be no need to add another 1010, unless you need all those ins and outs.
Mar 18, 2008 04:09 pm Hi I have 3 delta 1010 lt and wont to do live recording in 24 channels, anybody have expirience with that , which software (most stable) is best to bay for that kind of recording and what you think about minimum system requirements for this configuration ?
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Mar 18, 2008 04:49 pm Wow, 24 channels is no small task. I have no official recommendations on that except to say the best computer you can afford with the fastest drives (15000 rpm). Software wize I would be pretty confident with Sonar but like I said, I have no experience with tracking 24 at a time.
I run 3 cards but only the delta 44 series cards so I only ever track up to 12.
Sep 16, 2008 12:57 pm Hi, not sure if this post is still active but this info might be of use to someone.
I run currently three delta 1010lt cards in my pc sync'ed using the spdif connectors. I have no problem recording 24 track of audio at 44.1khz/16 bit. I have not tried higher bit/sample rates, but i suspect would work ok.
The pc is an athlon 2400+ with 1gb of DDR2 ram. To make the cards work properly it is very important to have a pci bus that is free of resource hogging cards e.g. graphics cards etc. Make sure your graphics card is AGP or PCI-E so it is not grabbing the PCI bus. My M/B has 5 pci slots and I made sure there were no other cards on the pci bus. Some M/Bs have built in stuff like network and USB, sometimes this hangs off the PCI bus, but newer mbs put these on their own pci-e bus directly off the chipset. This is the type of m/b to look for.
I had loads of problems originally with a pci graphics card which made the audio stutter every time the screen had to do a full or partial redraw.
I use sonar btw.
Hope this helps
Simon
Dec 18, 2008 10:55 am I've got 2x cards in the same system, running 16 analogue inputs. I can record easily at 44.1 & 48kHz, 16,24 or 32bit, but anything higher such as 88kHz or 96kHz introduces pops & clicks into the recorded files (although it cannot be heard at the time of recording when monitoring the input channels).
I've spoken to m-audio & used the correct drivers for XP Pro SP2 (xxxx48a) but still have the problem. Anyone got any ideas? Can any of you guys with multiple cards have a go at 96kHz and see how you get on? I'm running a pentium 4ht 2.8ghz with 2GB DDR2 400, and use a 200GB sata 7600rpm.
Could it be that the hard drive's too slow? I get the problem whether i record to one channel or all 16 when I use Cubase SX3.
I also use Wavelab 5 for mastering on the same system, and when I tried this to record 2 tracks I got no problems, even at 96kHz / 32bit.
Very frustrating!
Oh, I've tried it with both the SX3 updates separately too, but still can't get higher than 48kHz
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Dec 19, 2008 07:41 pm AhHa! So I'm not insane! Well, about this buisness, anyway. I too am able to only get 44.1 16 or 24 bit without choking things up. I use two Delta44s and a Audiophile 24/96 for up to ten tracks at a time without a hitch... as long as it's at 44.1.
The system I built for this was a good learning experience... maybe it's time to start looking at the next setups options. Still sticking with Sonar though, for the ap... that's fer damn sure!
May 23, 2009 06:08 am I use Nuendo 3 with 3 M-audios: 2 Delta 1010 and 1 Delta 66. I do it at 44.1, 48 and it runs well...
Aug 27, 2010 02:09 pm Hey Geoff, hows it goin bud! I'm new here, got a quick question, i'm trying to use 2 m-audio 1010lt's with my cubase SL, you mentioned to connect the 2 75-Ohm RCA SPDIF cables, to link the master clock signal, the manual says the word clock in and out are BNC cables, im confused??? can you help???
Feb 11, 2011 09:46 am Hi the Abominableone,
What I'm pretty sure you're looking at is the sockets/connectors at the back of the delta 1010s themselves that say wordclock or similar. It's the sockets/connectors on the back of the PCI cards themselves that you should have physically installed into the available PCI slots of your computer, that you need to plug the SPDIF cables into. They are white and red coloured. Geoff's instructions should then be follwed, and you shouldn't have a problem. Good luck
Scaramanga
Dec 10, 2015 11:40 pm Hi Geoff, am new here,am using two delta 1010lt cards with a core2 computer and cubase5 buh I get this hissing sound anytime I try recording using the two cards together.. One of d cards gives an hiss sound which I do notice during recording and playback..pls what can I do to correct this? Could it be that I didnt connect the cards well? Pls I need a reply..thanks
Dec 11, 2015 08:36 am This is a pretty old thread, you'd likely be better served by starting a new one, but for starters, I'd make sure you have a good power conditioner and make sure you have a decent ground in your electrical supply.
