Vocal mic... NEUMANN KM-84 vs. SHURE SM57

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Member Since: Sep 24, 2006

I'm currently using a Neumann KM-84 for everything I record... including vocals. I'm satisfied with the results but I still think the vocals could come out better if I had a mic better suited for vocals. Will I really see an improvement if I buy a Shure SM57? I'm using and EDIROL UA-5 AudioCapture that has both a preamp and a phantom power.

Thanks!

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I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Dec 29, 2006 10:51 pm

Short answer: hell no! Keep singing into that Neumann!

Neumann mics are amongst the most desirable mics on the planet. A SM57 has its uses, and is popular mainly due to its low cost, durability, and high SPL handling. But its not a powerhouse on vocals.

If you're looking to improve your vocal tracks with that Neumann, try looking into upgrading your preamp. If the Edirol has a line in, then you can buy a nice preamp to suit that Neumann and feed a line out of the preamp into the Edirol.

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Since: Sep 24, 2006


Dec 29, 2006 10:54 pm

Thanks for the answer, I guess I won't waste any money on an SM57 then!

Which preamp do you recommend, what's the price range for a decent one? Is it really necessary considering the Edirol does have a preamp? (though it doesn't seem that powerful, as I have to raise the volume to pretty much the maximum when using my Neumann for vocals)

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Since: Jun 08, 2006


Dec 29, 2006 11:07 pm

I've heard really outstanding reviews of the RNP:

www.fmraudio.com/RNP8380.htm

I have no experience with stand-alone pre's, myself, but from everything I hear, it's the best bang for the buck.

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Dec 29, 2006 11:15 pm

Yes, the RNP gets a lot of good press as a solid preamp.

Also maybe the Groove Tubes Brick, or the Electro Harmonix Tube Mic Pre are a couple of tube mic pres that might add some desirable distortion (warmth) to your vocals.

Definitely see if you can try before you buy, or buy from a place with a good return policy so that you can find the right preamp for you.

You'll probably want to break out of the budget preamp range (all of the sub-$150 ones) to find a noticeable improvement over the preamps in your sound card.

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Dec 29, 2006 11:19 pm

Oh wait, I just looked up the KM-84 and I can see why you might not like it on vocals...its a small-diaphragm condensor, which aren't the best suited mics for vocals.

A large-diaphragm condensor is more well-suited to vocals.

So maybe a good mid-level LDC would be a better investment than a new preamp for your vocals.

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