Lexicon Omega?
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Posted on Nov 10, 2006 04:26 pm
Fromthisdayon
Member Since: Nov 10, 2006
I started a band and we have practices about once every month.
I want to start researching about home recording..
I hear good things about the LEXICON OMEGA and i have questions.
1)i have a acoustic side project and there are 2 people in it,Vocal,back up vocals and 2 guitars.Can the Omega record simultanously?
2)Does every recorded peice just becomes a track and for another piece has to be recorded over?
whats a good recording interface for PC that is under $500 that has more than one instrument input.
Thanks.
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GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Nov 10, 2006 09:03 pm first welcom to HRC. let's start with your 1st question. Yes. The omega can record up to 4 tracks at once. for the 2nd.no. each track can and should be recorded as it's own track in what ever software you're using. so you can have 4 signals (2 gutars, 2 vocals whatever) being recorded at the same time as seprate tracks. that's good for jam sessions or live recording but it's most popular to record one track at a time . I have an omega and it works fine for the on the go stuff that i go it for. as far as the question on whats good for under 500, that's a matter of taste and need. M-audio has a bunch that have mulitple ins and outs, so does presonus. it's best to read up on em and check out the specs and compaire and see what might work best for you.
Nov 11, 2006 04:47 pm I dont understand theres only one instrument input in the front while u say i can record 4 instruments at the same time?
what about the back?
What does line in stand for?
Nov 12, 2006 05:41 pm is the Lexicon omega okay for a band.I will use drum machines from reasons 3.0.
Is it okay?
like descent recordings if u know how to do it.
Nov 12, 2006 05:43 pm "line in" is running line level inputs into it, such as tape decks, CD players, amp sims, direct outputs from your instruments and whatnot.
The Omega should be a just fine sound device for ya.
www.zzounds.com/a--884907...EGA/image--Rear is the rear view. For line level inputs...and couple mic inputs, MIDI jacks...hell, even digital S/PDIF.
Nov 15, 2006 12:27 am Whats better the Presonus firepod 10 or the Lexicon omega......
i dont need 10 inputs but which is better quality..Ill be using adobe audition and reason 3.0 and antares 4 for Vst plug in.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Nov 15, 2006 11:18 am More likely, most wouldn't hear much (if any) difference between the two. They're probably very close.
Look to other features to sway your decision.
Firepod has 8 preamps, whereas the omega has 2. If you're going to use the line-ins as analog inputs, then you'll need preamps to boost up the signal. Or if you use the omega onboard preamps, you'll have two mic inputs, then two line-in, needing preamp.
USB vs. Firewire, this is your call, if you have either or. Some here aren't too hot for firewire, but I'd question sending 4 channels thru USB, especially if it's 1.1usb.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 15, 2006 02:05 pm Just a note, you cant send 4 channels on USB. And you cant even hook one of the newer interfaces up to 1.1 either.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Nov 15, 2006 03:32 pm i'm sorry to say i've recorded 4 sprate channels on the omega and it has worked fine . it's a matter of what you need and how much you're willing to spend. By the spec the Firepod out weighs the omega, hell i use a Delta 1010 for most of my stuff because i had no need for the pre's on the omega.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 15, 2006 07:01 pm Geoff, I was under the impresion USB only carried 2 channels at a time. Sounds like its time for me to do some reading again then.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Nov 15, 2006 07:36 pm Yep I'm not the huge tech guy but i just know what i've been able to do with the little box. I got it becasue my old lapy only had USB ports and i wanted a device that could record 4 tracks at once ,for when i did drum recording on location.
Nov 16, 2006 11:29 am I have a question: I'm thinking of buying the Lexicon Omega but I have a soundblaster sound card, which I've just found out isn't good for recording because it resamples all audio. Does a USB interface replace the need for a sound card or do I need a new card in addition to the interface?
Nov 16, 2006 11:31 am ...the USB sound device IS your sound card...
Nov 16, 2006 07:41 pm ILL BUY IT....honestly..SOMEONE give me a SONG they recorded with the LEXICON....PLZ PLZ
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Nov 17, 2006 11:52 am I would hook you up man but I can't get to my studio PC for about 2 months .
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
Nov 17, 2006 04:12 pm I'm still a fan of the delta 44. 4 ins and 4 outs. Match that with a mixer with 4 busses out and you're golden.
Feb 14, 2009 12:07 am hope this is the right place to ask this... I have a lexicon omega and I am using abolton live 7.3 for pc and just resently it stoped recording the left bak of sound... now i am farly new to all this but i have looked around in the basic setting in abolton but have found nothing i could see as wrong... any ideas?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 14, 2009 06:50 pm Ya, from all the problems I have seen over the last few months with these things I would say they are simply built like crap and are failing themselves. It would seem many think it is software issues and so far none of it has been traced to software. It all appears to be hardware failure.
Feb 15, 2009 05:13 pm Noze2u
thanx for the input i figured out the problem, it wasn't software or the lexicon it was one of the seting in live, so i got it fixed up.
sorry to bug you all.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Feb 15, 2009 05:45 pm Glad you got it sorted out then.
Feb 18, 2009 03:37 pm I have a Lexicon and it's been a huge headache for me. It had to be rebuilt three months after I bought it and then rebuilt again after using it a few times. I posted in the Gear Gab forum about it.
The vocals for the song in my profile were done with the Omega. I love it when it works, which is maybe 50% of the time.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Feb 18, 2009 04:28 pm The Line 6 UX8 runs on USB and I can capture 8 simultaneous tracks at 96 if I want to. At $449 with 8 pre's, 2 channels of modeling, 2 headphone outs, 4 stereo sends, and the gearbox (podfarm) plugin I think it's a great deal. It has been rock solid on XP, Vista and Vista 64. The only problem I have, no linkable expansion. This would be less of a problem for someone who does not want 16-24 tracking capabilities.
Not saying buy it, just saying :)
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 11, 2009 01:13 pm Hi
I have a fairly nice home studio with a 65 db sound room that is 7.5' by 7.5'. Fortunately it is in a quiet portion of the house. So from inside it's more then 100db+ quieting. I use the Omega Lexicon and can't rave enough about it. It gives me clean 24 bit audio and more capability then I ever imagined. For anyone wanting to build a studio I have a few things I have learned that may help.
First building a sound proof room is not easy. Nor is it real cheep. Mine with some used sound insulation that was given to me still clocked in at around $2,000.00. The walls are isolating and have 6 layers if 4 different types if sound insulation. For a total OF 8" thick. The door is the 65db weak point and it is solid wood with one layer of 1/2" sound board and one layer of 1.25" sound insulation. If needed a second door would greatly reduce the sound pass through. The door has stripping all around it. Note: everything in the room is caulked and sealed. So the system has to have forced air to be able to breath.
With the Lexicon Omega you need some good preamps to use dynamic or cap. mikes. Mine are tube and cost about $80.00 each.
Then you may need a midi interface interment. I'm using the Roland EXR-3 which was under $500.00
Behringer B1 Studio condenser mikes are inexpensive and good quality for the price. I don't know if that helps but I love to talk about recording studio's any questions? I do have some background in this area.
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 11, 2009 01:30 pm It's me again! Well it's me again if it was me last time.
how do you upload an mp3 here?
Sep 11, 2009 01:32 pm look in your profile options, it should be pretty self explinatory where the drop down menu says "Manage Your Songs".
I few people ask this, so I will look for an simpler way to find it, but I think it's pretty logical.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Sep 11, 2009 01:41 pm Give a second for the 'lil drop-menu to come down when you hover over the My Account tab. There you'll find what dB is talking about.
MikeOMember
Since: Apr 12, 2009
Sep 11, 2009 03:47 pm I have an Omega - It's sitting unused in it's box!
Yes, it has 6 inputs, and will record 4 tracks at the same time.
BUT -- It has only two (2) mic preamps. If you want to use more that two microphones, you will need more equipment.
IMHO there ae better options to recording 4 simultaneous tracks!
MikeO
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 12, 2009 01:54 am Thanks for the help. I now have an example of my work from Mountain Top Studios in my songs.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Sep 12, 2009 11:34 am Heh, that's kinda cool. I saw the name, and was kinda like 'uh, ok, lets see what this is'.
I gotta say, listening to it a few times, it's really growing on me =).
There's a whine in there, from your equipment somewhere, which may or not be removable, based on your equip, but just wanted to let you know it's there.
That's a nice voice. I can't place what it reminds me of, but it's very nice.
Not a real big fan of items full panned L or R, but that's me.
I love your arrangement. Nice job.
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 12, 2009 02:53 pm My ears are getting old and so I'm not hearing it but, I will put up one more song this evening and see if you can hear it. I have some ideas where to look but will have to identify it first to find it. This is a little disturbing to me since I have done commercials for radio that have been aired here in the NW. Thank you very much for the help. I hope to get a centered ground power distribution box in the future that hopefully would solve that type of problems.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Sep 12, 2009 08:33 pm Ya, very cool arrangement indeed. The baritone vocal is cool as well. I'm a sucker for electric piano/Rhodes as well so you hooked me right off with that. Nice piano playing as well. The drums were well done also. And I must agree the panning may have been a tad too much. But whatever works for what your going for.
Very cool though and looking forward to hearing the next one you put up.
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 12, 2009 09:20 pm Ok I get the message! LOL
I guess I should round out the the instruments a little better. But there is a little history behind this. I grew up in the mono world when we would listen to the long ranger on the radio. Then in the 50's stereo came along. By the 70's I had a pair of Heath Kit 20 Watt Tube amps and loved to get the good separation that some stereo offered. I guess I have never out grown that. But I will see if I can over come it. The song I have added is rail to rail too sorry.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Sep 12, 2009 11:40 pm OH, no apologies needed for panning practice's. Everyone has their own thing and yours happens to be using that a bit more. If you go back to some of my music from the 70's there was some extreme panning similar to Sir George Martin. It does set things to an extreme though so one must be careful when mixing that way.
I will be giving a listen to the new track then in a bit otherwise tomorrow indeed.
Lone Ranger on the radio, I do believe we listened to some of the same shows.
SmikalowMountain Top Recording Member
Since: Sep 11, 2009
Sep 12, 2009 11:56 pm Radio was fun and in some ways better then TV. Thanks for your input. I still have a lot to learn.
