search engine submission and such
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Posted on Nov 08, 2006 08:20 pm
fortymile
Member Since: Jan 18, 2003
so i am about to launch my website in about a week or so, and i'm wondering now about search engine visibility and what i could do to get it appearing in searches. anything?
godaddy, my hosting provider, offers some submission service, where your page gets submitted to search engines, blah blah. i didn't read too much about it because i had a hunch it might be a waste of money. true or false? if false, i'll go back and look at it: i don't think it was very expensive.
but i think i remember seeing something on HRC before about this. now i can't remember where i saw it. isn't there an article here or something about this?
how can i get this site to appear in google searches?
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Nov 08, 2006 08:50 pm I think I can help here forty
www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=392
www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=534
Submissions services are a waste of time, if you get one link on a popular site, search egnines will find you with their automated crawling bots before they get to your manual submission. Post a link to the site here on HRC and bots will likely be crawling you within 24 hours...
For a human being to find your submission and search your site takes weeks, their automated bots are always on the move, and believe me, HRC gets spidered CONSTANTLY.
When you launch the site, post it here, let us all look at it and let the bots find the URL.
Then try to get links everywhere, friends sites or whatever...
Google in particular kinda "sandboxes" new sites and doesn't give them much rank for the first few weeks/months...
Nov 08, 2006 11:34 pm excellent info deebs! i knew that was on here somewhere.
thank you.
Nov 09, 2006 07:55 am Just remember only worry about Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask and sites like that, don't worry about the stupid little search engines that want to make you think they matter, but they don't. All together those stupid little sites total an incredibly small percentage of daily searches.
Also, get the free edition of WebCEO www.webceo.com and try it out, I use it all the time and have bought the full version, it ROCKS for monitoring performance.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Nov 09, 2006 11:22 am I was a little worried about a song title of mine, that it may already be in use. So I googled "Missus C" and the #1 result was my post in the music and composition forum here from 2 days ago. Google likes this site dB!
I get soooo many hits on my profile from people Googling stuff that I mention in my gear list. It must mean that you're networked very well!
Nov 09, 2006 11:30 am hehehe, ummm, yeah, bots scan thousands of pages every day at HRC, it's almost rediculas some days. But there are many hundreds/thousands of links to HRC out on the web, so bots get sent here from lots of places...so, yeah, most search engines rank HRC pretty highly.
I am often amused by looking thru HRC logs by some of the bizarre searches that bring people to HRC.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 10, 2006 09:27 pm Forty, another thing is plaster the link on all our Myspace pages. IF you get a banner done, I'll post it. Otherwise just drop it in a comment in html format and you'll get found that way as well.
My 2 cents anyway.
But dB is right, his knowledge on the topic is what gets HRC noticed.
Nov 10, 2006 09:44 pm Yeah, good point, homie, myspace is pretty heaily spidered as well I am sure.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 10, 2006 10:37 pm Ya, if you google noize2u you'll get a bunch of myspace links. It funny really how much that place can generate. Thats why I plaster a link or banner to here in damn near every comment I make.
OK, time for me to try and get some sleep.
Dec 08, 2006 10:53 pm ok so the site is coming along. it's a very simple site. i'll link to it later once i check it and stuff.
but one thing here: if anyone can tell me what the code is to insert the keywords for the search engines directly within the html, that'd be cool. i'm just going to hand code 'em, because as far as i know it's just a series of words that fall within some kind of brackets along with a snippet of code, correct?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 08, 2006 11:48 pm dB can tell ya I'm sure. That or look at the page source and see if you can decipher it.
Dec 09, 2006 12:08 am ah, good idea... that would have occurred to me at some point.
Dec 13, 2006 02:43 am k, i see the HRC keywords.
my next question is: is it adequate to use just THAT meta-tag alone? in other words, i think all i care about are the keywords for spiders to find, and anyway i don't know what the others do. so hopefully i could just use a head /head tag surrounding a meta keywords tag.
sufficient?
Dec 13, 2006 06:34 am There is mixed belief in the meta keyword tag. HRC still has it for legacy reasons, but, many argue that these days sites get by just fine without it if those same keywords are in your page text. If they are not in your page text they shouldn't be in the meta tags anyway. The keywords tag, some believe, does nothing except for give your competition a nice, comma delimited list of the keywords you are trying to target.
Google, I believe doesn't even have it's bot look at the keywords, but extracts them from the page content. The meta description is useful, if used like the titlebar content, those together are very heavily weighted and can make a big difference on your placement.
Dec 13, 2006 06:44 am i noticed hrc's keyword list was short. ok then. i'll use a description in the titlebar.
Dec 13, 2006 07:17 am yeah, I think I automated the keyword meta so it takes the titlebar content, strips out the common words (and, of, in, etc) and puts comma between them.
it's been a long time since I have tweaked the SEO of HRC though, so I can't remember for sure.
