Im doing a gig and need stuff answered

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Member Since: Oct 22, 2006

Im doing a local gig where i live and i wanted to know, do i need amps to be able to plug in the speakers?

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 22, 2006 04:28 pm

Check with the venue, if they have their own PA you'll need amps to be miked up by the sound guy, also, check if they have their own sound guy, if they have nothing, you'll need your own PA as well...

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
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Since: May 11, 2002


Oct 22, 2006 04:32 pm

and then get there an hour early ...and don't drink until after the show...

Member
Since: Aug 13, 2005


Oct 23, 2006 11:26 am

Local gigs are really good as you can drum up support,keep down travel expenses,expand your gigs,and maybe get in some free rehearsal time.I agree you should check out the in house PA tactfully and if you're in any doubt take a tested PA for the gig.(mixer/amp/speakers)you may be able to borrow some gear or hire it.Find out what other bands did and phone them if poss.If the venue has wall mounted speakers requiring amps you will need to know what power they can handle,the ohms of each cab and what cable connections fitted,ie,speakon,jacks,or other and if they work.Part in house PA's are usually a nightmare but some venues have the whole thing sussed then its easy.You dont need extra stress when setting up cause you've got to make a good impression and have fun,good luck.

Member
Since: Oct 22, 2006


Oct 23, 2006 08:34 pm

well we're the gig in a small school gym with stage and all this is what we have booked for the day

2 400w speakers
6 mics
1 mixing deck
all leads needed

but this is what we have to falticate for

2 electric guitars
1 bass guitar
3 singers
3 mics for drums

what am i missing from what i already have to accomidate this?

Member
Since: Aug 13, 2005


Oct 24, 2006 11:11 am

Hi,if the mixing desk is powered(amps built in)you wont need a power amp,if not you will, usually stereo.You didn't mention guitar/bass amps,its better to get separate amplifiers for these unless you are planning to plug them into PA,in which case the volume will have to be low otherwise the vocals wont come over.

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Since: Oct 22, 2006


Oct 24, 2006 01:06 pm

well this is what i think i should do

plug the guitars and bass into an amp, each and then plug that into the mixer and then the mixer shall connect to the speakers....will that work?

and where will i plug the mics in?

Member
Since: Oct 22, 2006


Oct 24, 2006 01:06 pm

well this is what i think i should do

plug the guitars and bass into an amp, each and then plug that into the mixer and then the mixer shall connect to the speakers....will that work?

and where would i plug the mics in?

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Oct 24, 2006 01:22 pm

Plug an amp into a mixer ?

I take it that the amps have a direct-out on them ? Better make sure, if you're not sure .

If you do have sterio preamp-outs for the guitar and bass you could...

Vox 1->mic->channel 1
Vox 2->mic->channel 2
Vox 3->mic->channel 3
Kick->mic->channel 4
Snare->mic->channel 5
Overhead->channel 6
Guitar->pre->Left out->amp... pre Right out->channel 7
Bass->pre->Left out->amp... pre Right out->channel 8

I did things that way for a while... works fine .



Member
Since: Aug 13, 2005


Oct 24, 2006 02:35 pm

I imagine the gym to be like an echo chamber,so if the guitar amps have their own speakers they dont need to be connected to the mixer,unless they are tiny and have direct out sockets. If they havent got direct outs you could mike them up. DO NOT connect amp speaker outputs to mixer inputs as this will damage the mixer. Dont forget it has to be a powered mixer or a mixer with a separate power amp unless you are using powered speakers(speakers with amps built in)if so the speaker cabs will have mains sockets.

Member
Since: Oct 22, 2006


Oct 24, 2006 02:46 pm

Thanks Hue that really helped me with the mics [=

but the amps for the guitars? what's the difference between an out socket and an out put?

Member
Since: Aug 13, 2005


Oct 24, 2006 02:52 pm

Signal strength,VOLTAGE.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004


Oct 24, 2006 02:56 pm

Hujumbo has a good point reguarding the gym being a pretty 'loud' place to play . You could probably get away with using the PA just for the vocals ONLY . Just mix the amps, and PA to be loud enough against the drums .

Member
Since: Oct 22, 2006


Oct 26, 2006 11:39 am

how will i tell if ts an out socket or an out put?

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004


Oct 26, 2006 12:00 pm

If you're refering to hooking up the amp(s) to the pa, then you'll want to make sure the preamp offers a 'direct-out' to go into the board . i.e... 'line level' . A speaker out will fry the channel .

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 26, 2006 12:03 pm

Yeah, even in many small clubs the PA is used only for vocals and maybe to boost a little bit of kick drum...

If thats the case, just bring a little 4 channel amplifiers head/mixer type thingy, they are handy, easy to set up and move, and cheaper!

Member
Since: Aug 13, 2005


Oct 26, 2006 12:30 pm

A speaker output will usually have speaker output printed next to it.If its a combo it might say extension speaker.If nothing at all printed, plug a speaker into it briefly.If its a line out or direct out it just wont work.

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