time for everyone to invest in hard cases...

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Aug 12, 2006 01:42 pm

Thats not good at all. Some of those instruments are priceless and they expect them to just hand em over. I dont think so. Xray them, open the case and inspect them. That would take care of things.

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Aug 14, 2006 10:46 am

I have an indelible memory of watching a documentary on Jacqueline Du Pre (if you've never heard this girl, get a CD NOW! It will change your life! The Bach suites are unreal). An anonymous benefactor gave her the use of the Davidoff Stradivarius 'cello. This is possibly the sweetest sounding 'cello ever. She said it was a nuisance having to buy a seat for it when she flew, but it was worth it because of the sound.

Now imagine handing this priceless instrument/work of art over to the baggage handlers to put into the hold. Unthinkable!

"Here's the Mona Lisa. Careful with that. Stick it in the hold with the luggage...Whoopsy daisy....pick it up....ah, they won't notice the damage....."

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Aug 14, 2006 11:31 am

Security on flights should always be tight but a cello with a solid neck and hollow body, how hard is it to check that.I dont think a priceless cello would be used as a bow and arrow.

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Aug 14, 2006 03:12 pm

"aahh, so what's this then!? It's setting off my sniffer..."

"er....it's rosin...you use it on a bow."

"AHA! A bow, eh. Right, you're nicked! No weapons!"

Obviously security is a very important thing, but 'sensible' and common sense are equally important.
I'd possibly be suspicious of electric guitars in a push-comes-to-shove situation, but a violin? There are 'f' holes so you can see inside, same with a 'cello. All the technology on metal detectors, electronic sniffers, x-ray machines and they can't get a small camera on a stick together? I mean, is it not drawing a bit of attention to yourself (something the terrorists probably would avoid) to drag a bloody great 'cello on the plane?

They really would take a 200 year old 'cello, and throw it on a trolly with all the Samsonites!

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Aug 14, 2006 04:26 pm

I could put an average modern instrument in a cargohold... with a hard case... but 200 year old violins are irreplaceable... the ones compairable that are still made are dependent on some treasure hunters pulling sunken lumber barges out of Lake Michigan...

heck even working home repair we often have to replace a lot of pine trim simply because it's soo much softer now and the grain won't remotly match...

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Aug 14, 2006 05:23 pm

...and I probably also should add that I remember pre-9/11 my mom was able to take arrows as a carryon on a flight...after they were checked for explosives...


but the funnyest one I remember was I was with the boy scouts and we wre departing St. Petersburg, Russia...where they had (1994) two guards with machine guns at every doorway... and one of the scouts was stopped because he had a butter knife in his carryon... never mind all of us were carrying pocket knives on us.

guard: do you have a knife in your bag?
scout: yes
guard: (confused) no... do you have a KNIFE in your bag?
scout yes... it's a butter knife
guard: so you have a knife in your bag???
scout: YES I have a BUTTER knife in my bag
guard (very confused look)
scout:( moves to open bag) Here let me show it to you...
ENTER STAGE EVERYWHERE: 12 machine gun toting guards who surround the hapless scout...


I also remember in 2000 I was flying out of Port Columbus and struck up a conversation with the african immigrant security guy checking my luggage... "Ah! You're in the Army going to training!... Back in Africa I was a soldier in Rwanda...." Amaizingly everything that could have possibly been used as a weapon mysteriously vanished from my carryon... and I didn't even notice until I got to my destination at Fort McCoy, Wisconson...


Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Aug 14, 2006 07:18 pm

...try boarding a plane with a case full of fencing swords. That was fun. What was even more fun was my coach being a total idiot at the airport. The cable tester we have is called the bomb, because it looks like a detonation box. Well I was getting in line to go through security which was already going to be a hassle "no dude, they're fencing swords, they're not sharp" "but they are swords, and swords are weapons"... when my coach runs up behind me yelling "Charlie! Do you have the bomb? I can't find it!"

Enter lots of cops and a missed flight.

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Since: Aug 13, 2005


Aug 15, 2006 02:23 am

Me and the Mrs got dragged out of the check in queue going to Northern Ireland.We were taken to a room where they had one of the cases.They held us back and slowly lifted the clothes with sticks to find two water pistols our six year old son had packed.The cops looked disappointed.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Aug 15, 2006 06:53 pm

I just laughed so hard at that. Before I got to the part were you said your son had packed them. I thought you were saying they were lifting the clothes you and your wife were wearing.

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