I am now old

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Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Member Since: May 11, 2002

and it's not even a birthday :P

I thought I felt old when I threw my back out getting out of bed on my 21st birthday... but today

...actually starting yersterday...

I, apparently, have gout. This sucks. I'm freaking taking my dads meds.. and I'm 27. I could bairly work 2 hours of landscaping this morning before I stopped.

Turns out I did practically everything on all the versions of "gout causes" lists.

peanut butter
reciently started heavy exercise
family history

I think it's a mixture of peanut butter and exercise that did me in. :)

of couse it could be arthritis... but I think my grandma could still beat me in a foot race now.

I've been crushed by farm equipment, had my knee dislocated playing soccer... but nothing has hurt as bad as my big toe does now... :)

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I am not a crook's head
Since: Mar 14, 2003

Jul 24, 2006 06:34 pm

If beer, peanut butter, and meat are causes, then I'm in danger too :)

Dang man...is there a treatment? Do they make Gout Out or something?

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Jul 24, 2006 06:43 pm

there are anti-inflamnitory and stuff that helps dissolve the salt crystals... other than that it's pretty much drinking crap loads of water and eating cans of cherry pie filling...

but I think I'm going to call it quits early for tonight and find a place to sleep thats closer to the bathroom... <TMI>as I'm out of empty beer bottles</TMI>

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jul 24, 2006 09:17 pm

That sucks dude. But dont give up. I was diagnosed with inflamatory and mild rumatoid arthritus about 15 years ago. That was shortly after my last knee surgeries. I have almost no cartalidge left in both knees. Which in turn puts more pressure on the joints above and below them. I click when I climb or descend stairs now. The kids think it a bit funny, I find it painfull. The evenings are the worst, especially after a long day on my feet. I no longer play guitar or paino for more then 5 to 15 minutes, at a time. I recently started on an herbal treatment which includes heavy doses of Glucosamine / Condriton. This is supposed to help slow the degeneration of the cartalidge I have left, and possibly help regenerate some. Time will tell. But the pain will never go away. I was taking Vioxx untill I found out it could kill me, and it was taken off the market. I am now taking Celebrex as it is a bit safer. Still a risk though not as severe as the Vioxx was. Accupuncture can work as well if you have the time to devote to it for about 3 months, then you can taper of to visits once a month. As well Vitamin D, which can be suplimented if you cant get enough sun. 400 to 800 iU per day is what is recomended. I believe they usually take a 200 iU supliment if you are getting some sun.

So definately dont give up on it. I still have nights with no sleep from the constant throbbing. But if I think ahead and prepare for what is coming and watch when and what I eat, it can be controlled to a certain point.

Ultra Magnus
Since: Nov 13, 2004

Jul 25, 2006 01:07 am

that does indeed suck, sorry to hear that dude.

Since: Aug 13, 2005

Jul 25, 2006 06:53 am

A woman where I work had a really painfull Knee joint,even had to use a stick.She started taking Glucosamine and it worked but it took six months.Now she goes line dancing.(without a stick).Cod liver oil helps as well,but thats another one that takes time.You can get the two in one,without the fish breath.Cool.

Since: Apr 03, 2002

Jul 25, 2006 07:03 am

zek, that sucks...

might I ask, what exactly is Qout? It's one of those things I have heard of, but never had or know much about.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Jul 25, 2006 10:28 am

Gout is sort of like a sudden onset arthritis. Uric Acid builds up in the blood and turns to a salt that accumulates in joints, typically the big toe... one of the problems is that the shape of the salt is basically a very sharp needle. Generally it lasts from 3-10 days provided you don't provoke it :).

I'm poping my dads meds 2 pills every 4-5 hours and a pill of ibuprofin at the same time. (time to get a job with medical insurance I guess :) ) Lots of water... had a pineapple core for breakfast, will have tuna for lunch and probably salmon for dinner... with cherrys and more pineapple in between.

The pain isn't throbbing anymore but it's still swollen and hurts from pressure so hopefully this is the last day.... the cat is confused because I'm walking to slow for her to trip me...

<TMI> One of the other side effects is lack of sleep from peeing every hour or two because of all the water.</TMI>

Since: Jan 18, 2003

Jul 25, 2006 02:18 pm

my dad used to get gout perhaps once a year. i am still mystified by the actual causes. all i remember is that his entire foot would swell to like 1/2 its size again and he would start using a cane. he would still stay active, walking down the street with that cane and wincing.

i thought it was all genetic. this 'what you eat' crap is revealtory to me.

Since: Jan 18, 2003

Jul 25, 2006 02:18 pm

er, revelatory, i mean. tell us more about the diet stuff...

Since: Nov 23, 2005

Jul 25, 2006 04:10 pm

Hatin' it, My buddy gets gout, he's about 32. Same symptoms. I had knee surgury in January for torn menescuses... thats the main cartilage in your knee... I didn't even know how it happened either. My knees just started swelling. Before that I used to do construction work and was making a decent living at it too. That knee surgery made the swellling go away but the recovery was not nearly a quick as the doctor said. Some days I'm fine, others they bother the hell outta me. Barometric pressure, etc, all has effect.

I too take a heavy dose of Glucosamine / Chondroitin and anti-inflams. good luck man. I'm almost 32 and I feel like I went from 25 to 50 years old in about 2 years !

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Jul 25, 2006 05:34 pm

The diet is sort of hard to describe... in fact if you google for gout diet you will get contrdictory lists from every website... but generally meat and yeast products are bad. I think mine was a combination of peanut butter and my body deciding it's better off burning excess musicle instead of fat (from exercise).

Red and organ (liver, etc.) meats are the worst... seafood sets it off for others... bread does my dad in... so maybe I have a peanut allergy and the extra bread did me in. My dad recovered from his gout after removing all yeast and limiting meat for about a month after the pain went away... so I'm already on rice cakes and yeast free bread.

Bing Cherrys are supposed to help break down the crystals... so I have a bowl of those with every meal.

fortunatly I don't normally drink enough to be a problem... I've just been trying to kill off a 24 pack left over from my sister visiting.

Since: Jan 18, 2003

Jul 25, 2006 06:02 pm

well bing cherries are so delicious, so that's good at least. but hey, how does your body decide to do a stupid thing like burn off muscle instead of fat when exercising? does that happen?

when my friend was 22, he was just lying on a bed one night...tried to sit up and yelled in pain. we thought he was faking, but he could not move, turned out. my other friend and i burst out laughing and it just got worse when the ambulance arrived. his back just completely gave out. and he wasnt doing anything at the time other than relaxing.

me, earlier this year i had a cold or something and was doing a lot of coughing, which worked muscles in my abdomen and back. one night i was on instant messenger with a friend. the next thing he knows, he's getting a text from me on his cell saying 'mang i've fallen and i cant get up. im on the floor right next to the computer, haha'

it sucked but i also couldnt stop laughing.

pop music
Since: Sep 27, 2005

Jul 26, 2006 02:52 pm

I may as well chime in on this. I used to have maybe twice yearly 'bout with the gout' due to tequila and steaks / mucho red meat. I've now learned to drink a lot (of water) and haven't had an episode in over five years.
AND just to give you something to look forward to, it's Mr. Kidney-stone. Imagine someone taking a red hot ice pick and jabbing you in the back and then playing a drum solo on the ice pick's handle. That is almost as bad as a kidney stone. If you're lucky you'll never get one, but if you do no one will need to tell you what's going on. Gout is very painful, but a kidney stone can hurt so much that you barf.
And for your age, I'm almost twice you and you'll be pleased to know that as you get older, you don't necessarily have to grow up.

Prince CZAR-ming
Since: Apr 08, 2004

Jul 26, 2006 03:09 pm

ya know, seems like lots of water is a good thing all around.

for recovery, and for preventative.

i usually drink a liter or two everyday here at work. then water and tea when at home.

Hopefully I won't have to go through these nasty issues.

I am not a crook's head
Since: Mar 14, 2003

Jul 26, 2006 03:15 pm

Yup, I've been drinking lots of water every day for several years now...fear of kidney stones was what got me started on the kick!

Water helps me get rid of headaches, coughs, congestion, and helps keep me from overheating on hot days when I'm working in the yard.

Since: Jan 18, 2003

Jul 26, 2006 04:40 pm

luckily drinking water is no chore for me. i am always drinking water for some reason. i dont particularly crave it, but it's conveniently around all the time, i noticed, and it serves the same purpose cigs do: just an oral fixation. im not happy unless im consuming something.

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
Since: Jun 24, 2004

Jul 26, 2006 06:35 pm

Quote: Do they make Gout Out or something?


You crack me up, Tadpui.

Ask your doctor if "Gout Out" is for you!!!!!!

-some users report internal bleeding, raging ulcers, tinnitus, atrophy of extremities, nausea, headaches, convulsions, blindness, dry mouth, sore throat, flatulence, diarrhea, excessive perspiration, loss of weight, loss of bowel control, and coma....if these symptoms persist...discontinue use...and consult medical practitioner...

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Since: May 11, 2002

Jul 29, 2006 09:13 am

Ugh.... I think I'm on the mend now and am weening myself off the pain meds... I think I was having widthdrawl from ibuprofin yesterday and last night... it felt like I had sunburns everywhere and I caught myself sleep walking :) I was convinced that something I needed was attached to the phone cable exposed in the basement cieling so I woke up trying to ripe cables out :/

foot still hurts a little but it is stiff...getting a little more flexability each day.

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