Help finding the right program

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Member Since: Apr 18, 2006

I am looking for a sound recording and editing program. I have a few of them but none of them do what I am looking for. What I want is one that will also let me layer tracks. For example - maybe two vocal tracks and three sound tracks combined to make one track - 5 to 8 layers would be great. Also one that works with Right and Left recording so I can target the right and left ear with different vocals. As well as import options of a variety of sound file types.

I am a Novice but a quick learner. So something easy to use and/or learn.

I used one several years ago while recording some of my hypnosis CDís, it was perfect, but I canít for the life of me remember what it was called.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 18, 2006 09:47 pm

which ones have you tried?

Member
Since: Apr 18, 2006


Apr 18, 2006 10:02 pm

I have Sonic Stage Mastering Studio, Audacity and Ambient grains trial, and of coarse windows sound recorder. All of these are fine for just sound recording but not for mixing and editing. The Sonic might but it was more than I could figure out in just a few minutes of playing with it.

I have try to do searching online but don't want to download a ton of different programs just to see if they will do what I do and screen shots are limited on most. If someone could point me in the right direction then I don't mind trying a few out to see what would work.

Thanks

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 19, 2006 03:30 pm

Haev you looked into any of the software from Cakewalk? There honestly arent too many programs that will allow you to build layers in one track. Sonar 5 is one of the few that do. You simply add a layer and it is controlled by the main track. Project 5 does that as well. They are both programs from Cakewalk.

They have programs ranging from the very entry level up to the full versions dB and myself and several other here use. Sonar 5 PE, it will do what you are looking for and then some. I a not sure if you need anything that big though.

What type of music are you producing?

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Apr 19, 2006 03:44 pm

Cakewalks Guitar Tracks Pro 3 will allow that as well .

No midi though .

Typo Szar
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Since: Jul 04, 2002


Apr 20, 2006 09:28 am

So odd this post is here, coz after doing all our work on cubase we got some suggestions from people taht we should not use cubase to mix and finish up our recordings coz they said something about it not having good output. And then i realized that in actuality, wat does make one program better than the other? like more professional? is it the functions, the usability? ppl say logic is really good quality... do some programs really give you better sound quality? do programs have headroom? i dont really see alot of talk about stuf flike this... any info?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 20, 2006 09:29 am

Who the hell said that? Cubase is MEANT for mixing...not mastering, but tracking and mixing are what Cubase is for, that's it's whole purpose.

What often makes one better than the other as far as sound goes is just the clarity of the audio rendering engine and the resource efficiency of the app.

Typo Szar
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Since: Jul 04, 2002


Apr 20, 2006 09:57 am

So what would you say is "pro" apps? i know stuf flike guitar trax is kind of speciliazed for that use adn thus not great for all around recording. Sonar producer Ed? Cakewalk has like 600 different apps, i use to use home studio... not good? Its nice that theirs alot, but once again consumer woes over which

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 20, 2006 10:07 am

Yeah, there are lots of options, too many...I don't really make much of a fuss over any label like "pro" or "hobby/project" level products, if it sounds good it is good. Home Studio, the most recent version, for example, uses the same audio engine that Sonar does, it sounds awesome and there is no reason at all you can't make pro level recordings on it.

Quite often manufacturers use the same audio rendering engine across all their apps, it just saves time and money in development to have reusable code. Usually the difference between application that are higher priced and lower priced within a company is feature limitations...less inserts, less audio tracks available, fewer bundled effects and softsynths, a lighter MIDI implimentation, more limited bussing and such things like that.

I would suppose being pressed for a definition, "pro" would be loads of bundled effects and unlimited tracking and bussing potential.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Apr 20, 2006 10:20 am

The 'pro' in Guitar Tracks Pro 3, is definately a hype-word . It too has the same engine as Sonar, and sounds just as good as anything I do in Sonar... but has no midi-instument implimentation .

What's next ?... Sonar 5.2 Producer Edition Pro ?

It's like 'Bud Light Draft Dry Ice' !

Lately I've been working in that app, but using the plugins that came with Sonar 5PE . heh, Still haven't gotten around to that midi thing .

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 21, 2006 08:55 pm

Come on Hue, dive in! The data's fine.

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Since: Apr 18, 2006


Apr 27, 2006 09:56 pm

Thanks I will look at Cakewalks options. I want to use it for multilayered dual sided recordings for Hypnosis CD's. I used a couple of "free trial" &/or shareware programs about 7 years ago but when I went back to reference them I belive one company went out of business and the other one I think was the program bought out by Adobe.

Member
Since: Apr 18, 2006


Apr 27, 2006 10:01 pm

So if I look at cakewalk for options which one is the easiest use but has these features:

Mixing
Editing
Multilayering on one track (at least 4 - 6)
Seperate Ear Recording & Output

I don't want to spend a fortune but mostly I don't want the program to be so difficult to learn that it takes me forever.

Thanks Again - I appreciate all your help!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 27, 2006 10:04 pm

Most of Cakewalks apps share very similar interface and usability styles so they all work about the same...Sonar is the only one I know that has the layered tracks, but I may be wrong there...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 27, 2006 10:46 pm

Project 5 version 2 has the layers as well. Very nice when setting up drum parts. And Project 5 is much cheaper then Sonar 5 if a budget is tight.

Bohemian
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Since: May 04, 2003


Apr 28, 2006 07:01 am

I believe, indigo means Multitracking instead of Multi layering on one track (which is possible in Sonar)

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 28, 2006 07:33 am

Quote:
Multilayering on one track


Seems to be pretty clear...

Bohemian
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Since: May 04, 2003


Apr 28, 2006 08:04 am

Yeah but when I started homerecording I wasn't pretty sure of my terminology either...

I could be wrong... but just to be sure...
don't want him to spend 500 $ on a app when a 150$ app will do what he wants it to...

I could interpret Multilayering on one track like this:

track being the "song" or Exported wav file or the mix if you like

but being able to multitrack his way to there... instead of *like windows sound recorder* being able to only track down for example one guitar track
instead of Guitars drums and bass ...

My post prolly doesn't make any sense to anyone but me...

ahh well... just tryin' to help

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 28, 2006 08:06 am

Oh, no, I totally understand, and I did after your first post. You may be right, but I try not to read into posts that sound very clearly worded.

I do feel ya though, I know totally what you are saying.

Bohemian
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Since: May 04, 2003


Apr 28, 2006 08:10 am

w00t just saw I got my 3 year HRC anniversary coming up

Administrator
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Apr 28, 2006 08:11 am

...two days before my 39th anniversary of living...

Bohemian
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Apr 28, 2006 08:17 am

I might just try to get a paypal account up and running with the next paycheck that comes in... may 10th or so... and finally become a PRO member




Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 28, 2006 10:14 pm

wOOt, Presley gonna join Pro. It will be good to have ya back there. We need some fresh blood, I mean faces. ;-)

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Apr 28, 2006 10:35 pm

Should I bring ya a beer for that then dB?

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