help with 3rd mic choice for miking drums
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Posted on Mar 12, 2006 12:46 am
musicdreamer7
Member Since: Nov 10, 2005
its been a while since i've posted but im back again
So i'm going to be doing demos for a few different bands and right now I only own two mics (because i dont have drums therefor don't record them). I have a sennheiser e609 dynamic and a Rode NT1-A condenser. For miking drums for these bands im thinking about micing the snare with the e609 and using the NT1-A as an overhead. I'm going to purchase another dynamic mic though because I want one for the bass drum. Does anyone have suggestions as to what a fairly cheap quality bass drum mic is. Should I get a mic specificaly made for it too? Also is the set up I have for doing the drums suitable?
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GregorMember
Since: Jan 08, 2004
Mar 12, 2006 01:38 am I would rent a couple of mics. Record your drums in stereo they'll sound SO much better. For the overheads use condensers in maybe an X/Y position.
Mar 12, 2006 08:55 am I'm not going to do that seeing as how I want mics for any future recordings I would do, so im insisting on sticking with what I have and buyinga third mic.
Mar 12, 2006 09:20 am I used to use a cheaper AKG (I think) mic made for kick drums that did OK, D20 or D25 model or something like that.
That said, recording drums in mono will suck.
GregorMember
Since: Jan 08, 2004
Mar 12, 2006 12:06 pm Rent a mic you're interested in buying to try it out. Stick with what you have, but a couple rented mics will certainly help your cause.I would buy another Rode NT1-A mic to match your existing one.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 12, 2006 01:15 pm AKG has several for the lower end ranging from about $100.00 to about $350.00. Take a look here at them, the prices listed are of course not what you will find them for in a store, they will be cheaper by a little bit. It is the top 3 mics in the list that will work best for your situation.
www.akg.com/akg_structure...dvresult,1.html
I am however with gregor on maybe renting acouple mics to try first and see. Adding another Rode for the stereo overheads will really be a good idea as well. Mono recordings can work, but in modern day music it wont sound really good.
Some others to look at as well, AKG D-110, Sennheiser e902, CAD KBM412. These are all on the cheaper end of the spectrum as well if money is an issue.
Mar 12, 2006 01:35 pm "loser end"
Ya, nice attitude...how about the end for people that don't wanna spend all their money on it...or the end for people that just don't have the money..."loser end" is a lame thing to say.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 12, 2006 02:15 pm OK, bad typo. Fixxed now.
Mar 12, 2006 05:18 pm oops, typo...my apologies for jumping to conclusions...
As an admin for a site that helps people that won't/can't spend loads of cash, it stunned me you made that sort of comment...couldn't hold back my forked tongue...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 12, 2006 05:27 pm Nope, no apologies needed. I shoulda looked closer before hitting submit. That did appear to be lame on my part.
Mar 12, 2006 05:55 pm Ok thanks for the suggestions everyone BUT...
I dont really want to rent mics seeing as I dont know anywhere to do so and dont want to go through the hassle because Id rather have mics I can keep around for the future
And also how would this work
Should I just buy one of those drum mic packages that are 150-250 dollars and just not use the tom mics but the two overheads, kick and snare mics. While they might not be the best quality i would have everything i need and future tom mics for whenever i need them and also its about equivalent to the price of a dece kick drum mic.
Mar 12, 2006 06:02 pm I know many, many people that have gotten by with the cheaper drum mic kits just fine...I would say they are at least worth a try. Though it sounds like you kinda had you mind made up and didn't really want suggestions though...
Mar 12, 2006 06:12 pm hey im not the stereotypical stubborn musician here
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
How does that kit look to you guys? any other suggestions for what I should do or which kit to go with.
Mar 12, 2006 06:15 pm Yeah, thats the type...though I'd rather you buy it here www.zzounds.com/a--884907/item--NDYDMK7PACK it would save you $30 and make HRC a couple bucks...
That said, 7 mics for $150...that's like $20 per mic...so, well, ya DO get what you pay for, but if it does the job for you, rock on.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 12, 2006 09:20 pm I have heard one user of that kit compliment them highly for the price. As stated you get what you pay for, but these seemed to be a pretty decent kit for the price. And if you take care to get them set up properly they should really work just fine. You may need a little tweaking in the end, but probably very little.
I have not seen another kit that size with that arrangement of mics in it for that kind of price.
maxxonMember
Since: Feb 09, 2006
Mar 12, 2006 11:23 pm I own the samson 5 kit and use 57's for my overheads I paid about 280$ cdn(new) for them bought the 57 's used in a pawn shop for 90$ for both. I think they sound good and true(br 1600)but still not happy with it to show everyone in the forum I have to much bleeding happening. I just went to acoustic drums so just learning as I go using all the great links you folks provide.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 13, 2006 06:46 pm Gald your getting on then maxxon. Cant wait to hear what you come up with. And dont be shy about posting music. Everybody starts somewhere.
maxxonMember
Since: Feb 09, 2006
Mar 13, 2006 11:26 pm thanks!! Music comming soon!!