Behringer Truth-->Esi Juli@ (Xlr->Trs) whats the problem? (last attempt)
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Posted on Mar 09, 2006 05:11 pm
callmejizzle
Member Since: Mar 09, 2006
Hey everybody!
After intensive searching for a solution to my problem i came across this comunity and i hope you can help me out cause nothing has so far.
the problem is:
I bought behringer 2030A truth monitors and esi juli@ soundcard couple of days ago. when i turned on the system i heard this noise at the background whining,hissing humming whatever you can call it. I searched for an solution all over the net and i have tried it all, connected the monitors direct to the socket at the wall,checked for irc conflicts, changed latency, used different PCI slots and i use balanced cables. But none of this has reduced the noise and its very annoying. Some have said that my mainboard might not be compatible with my soundcard. Esi Juli is compatible with +3.3V and +5V PCI-slots and my mainboard has it.And there's nothing wrong with my behringers cause I have tried them at a friends studio and they work fine. What can be mentioned is that i have an integrated vga could that cause a conflict?
I hope some of you can help me out,, if not,,hmm then i probably should ask if someone is interested in a esi juli@ soundcard?
warm regards/J :)
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HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Mar 09, 2006 05:49 pm If it isn't anything equipment-oriented, it could be an issue with the electricity of the building you're in . The room my studio is in developed one of these induced 60-cycle hums out of the blue, and after extensive testing, and listening, and searching I found the problem was originating from the fuse box itself, and JUST the fuse-section for the studio . So you might want to check into that .
Luckilly, the rest of the place is ok to record in, though it just doesn't sound the same . The breaker box will be installed, the first warm/dry weekend we get .
I miss the studio-room soooo much . : (
Mar 09, 2006 05:58 pm Yeah, it could also any lights you may have around, neon lights, like beer lights that bars have, often can cause this kind of effect too...
Do you have a power surge protector/power conditioner/backup battery type of unit on your gear?
Mar 09, 2006 07:06 pm
Hmm if its in the electricity its not much i can do about it i guess, i dont know so much about the affect electricity can have on my speakers. But one thing i'll try is to earth my computer chassis and see if it helps.
I have my studio in a villa at the second floor and the fusebox is downstairs thats all i know.
And about power and such, i use two of those
I connect one direct to the wall and the second one to the first one. So in other words the first one is the one i turn on and off everything with.
Things thats connected to those for the moment are, two computers, a switchview, micpreamp, external harddrive, and my behringers.
Thanks for your answers guys and i hope my language is pretty understandable :)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 09, 2006 09:34 pm Your language is fine. I have to agree on the electrical thing being a possible cause for your problem.
As dB stated you can try a power conditioner. That may help eliminate some of the noise that could be caused by a bad cirquit.
Have you tried moving the computer and moniters to another location to see if it is maybe just the room you are in?
That is an odd pluggin, may I ask what country you are in?
Mar 10, 2006 02:37 am
Im from sweden where the snow is falling and the sun aint shining.
Power conditioner? dont really understand what that might mean :) you maybe can show me a pic?
Thanks for the suggestion, i'll move the computer to another room and hopefully that might be the solution.
Cheers mate
Kaos62Kaos is only a form of insanityMember
Since: Feb 03, 2005
Mar 10, 2006 07:57 am The unit you are using is just a multi way adapter. You will need a proper protection unit. They can be had at reasonale cost. They contain a surge protection unit in them and a conditioner.
Mar 10, 2006 09:02 am
Now i have tried all the rooms in the house but the noise is still there plus i connected the computer direct into the wall. Its just wont go away.
So right know i really dont know what else i can do that i havent tried?
One thing i can mention is when i tried to use headphones there were no noise in them. But that is becuase I dont use any headphone amplifier right?
this is the cable i use from my monitors
and those are balanced.
So confused right now..
But thanks for trying to help me out guys
Regards/J
Mar 10, 2006 09:07 am This is weird...however, I will say, plugging your computer straight into the wall is never a good idea.
As far as UPS's go, I am talking about things like this www.cyberpowersystems.com/upsoverview.asp they can be very expensive, about $100 (USD) will get you a pretty decent one. They are very useful too...every computer system should have one on it.
That said, perhaps you have a defective card, perhaps some other component of your system is interfering such as fans or whatever...have you tried both the 1/4" and RCA output options on the Juli@? I have a Juli@ myself and love it.
Mar 10, 2006 09:30 am
Yes i agree this really weird.
But i'll look around my area if i can found a Ups but i doubt that it would be an solution.
Maybe its a defect card but i wanted to test every possible cause for this problem.
But i should try out the RCA outputs and see if there is any improvement. The next i should try is maybe mount my soundcard into another computer and test it.
Could I ask you on what kind of computer you are working on? and are you using the trs side on the card?
Mar 10, 2006 09:57 am I have used both sides for I/O, I use the RCA side now. I have a custom built rack mounted AMD system. based on what you said I doubt the UPS will help, but, it's still a good thing to have.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Mar 10, 2006 10:17 am You get a clean signal through your headphones, but not the speakers ?!?
sGot'ta be something with the speakers . Have you tried any other ways of monitoring ?... home sterio, or the like ?
AshwinMember
Since: Feb 01, 2006
Mar 10, 2006 10:42 am Just a suggestion... Is it possible for you to move the computer to your friends studio too? That way we can eliminate/confirm the power supply as the culprit. If you have another PC to try the card on, it would be easier to debug such problems.
Regards,
Ash...
Mar 10, 2006 11:24 am
Just got off the phone, the company who sold me the soundcard called and they thought it was strange too. Specially that there is no noise when i use the headphones, so they say it might not be the soundcard. But as i mentioned before it can depend on that those headphones dont catch strong signal as i dont use amplifier to them but i should maybe little noise but i dont even hear that. But they gave me another number to call which i will after i test your other suggestions. I will take my computer to my friends studio tomorrow (its 5.21 pm here in sweden) and try with his monitors on my system, my monitors on his system and so on :)
Hopefully I will get some answers :)
Just wanna thank y'all for taking your time to help me out, appreciate it alot
regards/J
Mar 10, 2006 11:25 am Keep us informed, I'd like to see what winds up being the problem.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 10, 2006 07:21 pm Definately keep us posted as to how it works out, and what might fix it.
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Mar 10, 2006 09:20 pm Where are the speakers in relation to the computer and computer monitor?
Mar 11, 2006 05:35 am
hey jmail
this is the setup of my desk
But i have tried to disconnect the computer monitor without success
In just some hours im go to my friends studio and I'll let you know how it turned out.
Until that take care/J
Mar 12, 2006 05:50 pm finally the problem is solved guys
Today i went to my friends studio and the result was the same. The noise didnt disappear and I almost gave up the hope. But then i found an article www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_n...m?threadid=3904
So i tried one last thing and it was to use another vga card cause i previously had an integrated one.
I got a another card and now its so much better.
:)
Wanna thank y'all for trying to help me out in this great community! Now I know where to turn when I'll face a new problem :)
Take care/J
Mar 12, 2006 06:00 pm No kiddin...thats weird, I have never seen an integrated video chip make problems, only cards with big fans and stuff.
Very interesting, thanks for letting us know.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 12, 2006 08:45 pm Glad ya got it figured out and shared it here. Hope to see you hanging out here often.
Noize
Mar 13, 2006 04:21 am
Yes of course I'll hang around here :)
And i hope the problem and solutions that were posted here will help out others, even if it might not be about the Juli@ card.
Much regards/J
Mar 13, 2006 07:52 am i have "truths " the "2031a's"and found that "RF" interferes with the amplifier from time to time which is mainly annoying as is doen't come out in the mix.but i also had a television antenna on the outside wall which i have removed and i also plugged my mixer and speakers into seperate outlets on different breakers and the problem went away ,which fix worked i can't say but the problem is gone ,but my guess was the antenna as i was getting local radio through my speakers which was around 94.9 on the dial maybe that frequency range is a problem for those amps ??????
Mar 13, 2006 07:53 am oops apparently it pays to read the whole thread!
AshwinMember
Since: Feb 01, 2006
Mar 13, 2006 11:00 am This is news :-)... and good too. Thanks for the info :-)
Mar 13, 2006 11:02 am Nearfield monitors should be shielded from interference like that. That is very disappointing if thats the case. None the less, thanks for the good info ballz86ed.
Mar 13, 2006 06:21 pm Hey guys i just wanted to recommend a tool called pci latency tool if ya havent heard about it.
downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951
It let you adjust the latency of your graphic card, and it can lead to very good chance of stutter free performance & sound.
Felt that i should share it with you
Regards/J
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Mar 13, 2006 08:02 pm Nice link. Funny thing is the author is from the company that makes the audio interfaces I use.
Looks like a handy little tool for gamers or those who rely heavily on their video performance.
