whats lacking in my recording? Part 2
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Posted on Jan 15, 2006 08:32 am
fredzs
Member Since: Jan 07, 2003
haha.. we just tracked guitar a while ago here in my place..
pls let me know what you think.. comments and everything! pls be honest :( i dont care whether its a bad comment lol.. just comment ! :)
www.soundclick.com/dodo (go click and listen to "Luha")
i directly recorded the guitar, from my friends effects (Korg AX100) directly to the mic in of my soundcard (Realtek Built-in EWW!) then double tracked it..
IMO, this sound is a lot cleaner than me micing my Peavey Bandit amp.. and thicker too :D
this track is only Drum and guitar, no bass yet..
excuse the sloppyness of the guitar cause we just came from a party and we're really drunk.. lol. we figured if we dont track now, we wont get to track later cause we wont wake up LOL!
anyhow, pls feel free to comment :D I wanna be a better engineer / drummer for my band.. (Quietus) :D
btw, the guitar is some cheap Fender Fat Strat Copy... (cheaper than a squier!) and the Korg AX100.. Output directly to my soundcard's mic in. then out to Adobe Audition
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Flashmannot the brightest spark...Member
Since: Sep 13, 2005
Jan 15, 2006 11:52 am Fat second riff, and the harmony rahhhhhhhhh!
I'm listening on Event TR5's
I like the overall guitar tones. The drums sound VERY live. Maybe they could be made to sound a little more 'studio' because I think they sit a bit too far apart from the guitar in terms of their sound. i.e the guitars sound very direct and the drums don't.
Perhaps a bit of e.q to freshen up the guitars slightly. But that may be me being biased. If you want that kind of metal/Kyuss guitar sound I reckon you've more or less nailed it man.
I don't know. I wouldn't know how to do it. Just that's what I'd do if I did!
Great drumming though! If you can do that pissed then far traid my mucker.
Great stuff. Putting that sick 2nd riff on again phwroawwwwwwww!
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Jan 15, 2006 01:21 pm Sounds pretty good to me. I think a bit of compression on the drums to fatten them up just a bit and a slight boost of the EQ on the mid's/upper mids for the guitar for a bit more definition would help. Especially after you add bass I think the guitar will sound a bit muddy in with it's current tone.
Great playing on both the guitar and drums!
Dan
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 15, 2006 04:00 pm Agree with the comments above. OD is spot on with the EQ advice for sure. The ;guitars definatley dont sound bad at all. And not really sloppy either. Nice track.
sticadokid*sticado: short and LOUD!*Member
Since: Feb 25, 2005
Jan 15, 2006 06:06 pm thats an awesome song! get it finished. i wanna here that thing mixed. u need some work on the drums but that guitar sounds sweet!
fredzsMember
Since: Jan 07, 2003
Jan 15, 2006 06:28 pm i tried compressing the drums using this setting..
attack - 10
release - 300
treshold - -5db
ratio - 4:1
thats the compressor in Sony Soundforge.. but it sounded kinda weird! @_@ my drums are just in 1 track.. 3 mics in 1 track..
i wanna buy a Delta1010LT already so i have control over the mics, but until then.. this is all i have..
software compressor ... @_@
anyhelp will do :)
fredzsMember
Since: Jan 07, 2003
Jan 16, 2006 09:56 am ok i just added some compression on the drums.. err, cant upload it now.. will do later.. it sure made it louder but im really frustrated cause that damn bass drum cant be heard! LOL!
im just using 3 mics on my kit.. lol. all behringer XM1800 for kick and snare, and C-1 for overheads/toms.. i wanna add more so i have control over it ...
how can i add more "definition and click" to my bass drum ?? would the "tape a metal plate on the batter head" help in accentuating the beater smack ? I really like Vinnie Paul's (Pantera) Kick drum sound.. its really punchy and clicky..
Jan 16, 2006 10:00 am Well, I haven't listened to the song yet, but are the drums tracked separately? If so, you should be able to process the kick with some EQing and compression on it's own help bring it out a little bit.
fredzsMember
Since: Jan 07, 2003
Jan 16, 2006 11:09 am nah, its 3 mics down to a stereo track.. :( tapeout to line in .. sucks.. thats why i cant wait till i get them on seperate tracks @_@
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 16, 2006 08:28 pm And it is tape a qurter to the inside of the drum head right where the beater hits it. And yes it does add defanition to the sound.
wayoutMember
Since: Jan 22, 2006
Jan 22, 2006 01:09 pm Good work.
You say that you did the guits direct?
What do you do to get the distortion / amp tone?
I like the dry drums myself.
Jake
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Jan 23, 2006 10:05 am I like it. I "hear" what you mean on the bass drum. Noize's trick does work, for the next time you record, but you need more "oomph" now, I think is what you mean, more "feel-it-in-the-chest"? If you've got a para-graphic (metric?) EQ (3-dial thingey, where you can adjust the width, frequency & level), you could dial-in a somewhat narrow "Q", boost rather high, say +6dB or more, so you find the "area" that will give the "hit" that you want, then bring it down so you don't "kill" your speakers/headphones. Experimentation will eventually get it, but someone else may be able to "dial" you in quick-like. A bass guitar being in there will help, also, and be sure to "leave room" for it later, also...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 23, 2006 11:59 pm The quarter trick is not my trick by the way. It is an age old trick used since before I can remember.
fredzsMember
Since: Jan 07, 2003
Jan 25, 2006 08:36 pm www.soundclick.com/dodo
go click on Luha (Pre-Mastered) :D:D
i really dont know what pre mastered means, lol.. the song's complete already.. i got the mix going on, but i think the guitar and vocals sit a little behind the mix.. mmmm... i cant fix it cause i mixed it down already and i dont have backups .. HA HA HA !
anywayz, i need comments :D:D im 17 and ive had my recording stuff for like 2 months MAX. Lol..
oh btw, that song is in Tagalog(Philippine Language) so u guys might not understand it :D
PLS COMMENT!!!! :D:D
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 26, 2006 09:03 pm fredz, that sounds 100% better. The guitars dont really sound behind the mix at all. The vox are fine as well. I loved the lyrics, even in Tadalog. It fits very well in the tune. You should allow that for download, I would have that in my playlist for sure. Reminds me a little bit of a couple differant bands. But I think overall you have doen a great job from where it began.