newbie....headphones/mixer question

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Member Since: Dec 16, 2005

i searched the forums before posting but couldnt find anything that answered my question.

i'm using:
audiophile 2496
behringer ub1622fx-pro
cakewalk homestudio v2

i'm trying to run a guitar through my mixer to be heard through headphones while someone playing bass/drums can hear. when i do this the guitar that is ran through the mixer is being recorded along with the drums which are also going through the mixer (and intentionally being recorded). i've tried using busses and aux but i dont really know what i'm doing with thoes. i have a headphone amp hooked in the sub outputs. thanks for any help.

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Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
Since: Jun 24, 2004

Dec 16, 2005 04:43 pm


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Prince CZAR-ming
Since: Apr 08, 2004

Dec 16, 2005 04:52 pm

Welcome to the HRC tourbus,

If your main outs are plugged into the computer's inputs, then disable your guitar channel from the main buss. THen the guitar sound wont go to the main outs, only to the sub outs, and into the monitoring solution.

there should be a button to disable a channel's signal from going to the main buss, or to the sub buss. Yep, there's a sub button, and a main button. Disable the main on the guitar channel, but leave the sub button enabled.

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 16, 2005 11:03 pm

Use the headphone out on the mixer to go to the headphone amp, or you can use the aux sends. Then use the sub out's to send the channels you want to record to send them to the sound card.

Since: Dec 16, 2005

Dec 17, 2005 03:00 pm

thanks for your help. i'm still having trouble though. ok so the headphone amp is connected to the sub outputs. my monitors are connected to main outputs(xlr to xlr). and the main outs are plugged into my computer's inputs/soundcard (1/4 to 1/4). i have a guitar plugged into channel 11/12 with the sub button pressed down and the main button not pressed down. i can hear the guitar through my monitors as long as the sub button is pressed down. when i enable recording on cakewalk it is still recording the guitar. maybe a cakewalk issue?

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 17, 2005 10:24 pm

OK here we go in order of how it should be hooked up to do what you want.

1: Your moniter's should be hooked to your main or control room outputs from the mixer.

2: Your sub out's should be hooked to the audio interface ot inputs on your computer.

3: If your mixer does not have a headphone out you can hook your headhpone amp up from the aux outputs of the mixer.

4: AS for which buttons do what, here we go.

Main outs will allow sound to go to the moniter's for you to here, you will want to hear it all so any channel on the mixer you want to hear have it going to your mains.

Sub outs will only go to the sub outputs of the mixer, this means what ever instrument you have the sub button pushed on will go to your PC audio interface. And no, you dont need to turn that channel off from gong to the mains as you are n ot recording the mains, or shouldnt be anyway.

Aux outs can go to your headphone amp for the player to hear. You simply send the channels of the mixer to the Aux outs by turning the knob's for the channels you want him to hear. The more you turn the knob up, the louder he will hear each channel. So if you want him to hear more drum then guitar, turn the drums up and so on.

As far as listening to what is allready recorded, you simply run the outputs of your audio interface back to a pair of channels on the mixer and send them only to the mian outputs and you will be all set.

This is the only real effective way to do what you want to do with the gear you have. And it is the normal way you will see it done in every srudio in the world.

HOpe this clears it up a bit for ya.

Since: Dec 22, 2005

Dec 23, 2005 11:40 am

what if you do not have sub outs,
i have the eurorack mx 1602a mixer. It has:

contorl room/phones out L/R
main mix inserts L/R
main mix L/R
2 x aux sends
aux return L/R
2 tk/ Aux return L/R

how would you do the same as above, going to an audio interface, but also using the aux sends and returns to go to a daisy-chained effects rack and back to mixer. Or shall i put the effects between the mixer and the interface?

please help, thanks

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 23, 2005 03:35 pm

Well in the case of using the 1602 you wont have much choice, since there are no sub out's. I would suggest then that you daisy chain teh FX unit's in the Aux Send path into the audio interface input's. This is the only way you will be able to moniter the signal and not get the playback tracks mixed into the recorded track's.

Since: Dec 22, 2005

Dec 23, 2005 04:37 pm

so i'll have mixer aux send>fx units in>fx units out>soundcard in

in that case, do i not need the main mix out? And also therefore, my phones will be outputted from the soundcard, meaning i can hear playback from cubase, but not from the mixer. Is there anyway that you can mix both the soundcard signals and the mixer signals together?? headphone amp maybe?

hope that makes sense, cheers, ollie

Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 23, 2005 05:36 pm

Yes that is right. And yes, if you are monitering through speaker's you will use the main outs for that. And all the channel's from the PC and whatever you have plugged in instrument/mic wise will be playing through the mixers main outs as well as the headphone outs. You dont need to moniter through the PC's headphone out, simply send the line outs from the PC to the mixer and then dont send those channels via the Aux Send and you will hear the mix of all the stuff going on at once. So no headphone amp required unless you are needing more then one set of headphones.

Since: Dec 22, 2005

Dec 23, 2005 06:00 pm

Thats amazing, you really show up my knowledge you guys, amazing site, you guys really know what you're talking about.
so to conclude my stupidity,

aux send>soundcard in (2 unbalanced)>soundcard out>mixer in (dont use aux send)

so then you'll hear whats being played on cubase, and what you're playing, but it will just record what you are playing. Brilliant, any suggestions of a cheap gadget to put between mixer and pc, compressor? i was thinking of the behringer tube valve compressors? or is there no need for this??


Czar of Midi
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Dec 23, 2005 08:40 pm

You can add a compressor later if you feel the need. They are a nice addition once you get going.. Especially for vocals and drums.

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