Dec 02, 2005 02:28 pm ADAT is a digital recording device that really isn't used that much, the ADAT interface is just a digital interface, if you don't know what it is, you don't need it.
What is Adat and what does it do?
Posted on Dec 02, 2005 02:24 pm
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I see it everywhere, but i have no idea what it means, what advantages does adat have over regular inputs?
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Dec 02, 2005 02:28 pm ADAT is a digital recording device that really isn't used that much, the ADAT interface is just a digital interface, if you don't know what it is, you don't need it.
Dec 02, 2005 02:31 pm haha good stuff, i have gotten this far not know anything about it, so i jsut wanted to make sure i wasnt missing out on anything hehe!
what is it used for?
Dec 02, 2005 02:34 pm isn't the lightpipe for ADAT connection? usually adding 8 inputs in one connection?
Dec 02, 2005 02:40 pm Yeah, and the 'big stupid' was when Tascam came out with another form of it... TDIF...just to be special .
Check out what ESI has done to deal with this digital mess...
www.esi-pro.com/viewProduct.php?pid=7&page=2
... I so want one !
Dec 02, 2005 02:49 pm heh, TDIF, Thank Dog it's Friday
(that's for the dyslexic)
Dec 02, 2005 02:57 pm ADAT is the most useful tool in my shed allowing me to add, like PJK said, 8 inputs into my DAW (recording computer). If you buy a soundcard with an ADAT input, and purchase some sort of device with 8 preamps in it (an analog to digital converter like the behringer ADA 8000 Ultragain Pro-8 Digital Preamp), and an ADAT lightpipe connection cable, then you have one of the most cost effective solutions for a multitrack studio in the world. I definately recommend it. It is the only was that people on a budget like me can record a whole drum kit with lots of mic inputs! Even more fun is killing 2 birds with one stone (so to speak) and getting a fostex VF160 (portable hardrive and digital mixer all in one) - it has a ADAT output, so can be used as your Analog to digital converter (8 input preamp), but can be also used as a standalone portable mixer.
Dec 02, 2005 03:04 pm I started writing an article about all these different damn connection types...I gotta finish it one of these days...
The most limiting factor of ADAT, if I recall is the sample and bit rates, originally they maxed at 24 bit 48kHz, tho it may have increased since then.
Dec 02, 2005 03:22 pm wow, adat sounds useful, not terribly so to me because i think im going to go for a presonus firepod. But i was thinking about a motu 2408 mk3, and that had adat...
hmm decisions decisions...
Dec 02, 2005 03:32 pm i've only ever use 16 bit, 44.1 khz... it's going on a CD anyway.
Dec 02, 2005 04:19 pm Quote:
it's going on a CD anyway.
Yeah, true, but I have grown over the last couple years to prefer to have the highest resolution source as possible and dither down for CD, then a remixing for higher rez product later is easier such as DVD-a or surround mixes...
Dec 02, 2005 04:21 pm ... again, good point...
Dec 02, 2005 05:01 pm I was starting to wonder about this adat stuff myself as I was thinking about getting an RME card to go with my linux install... but I know nothing about lightpipe stuff... Are there any good links that show how the products work together?
Dec 02, 2005 05:10 pm Hows that working Zek? Any stuff done in audio yet? or are you ramping up. I'm kinda curious about it too.
oop, in linux, that is.
Dec 02, 2005 06:24 pm I kinda got distracted into rebuilding my webpages...:) I left the alsa modualr synth going for a couple days playing a "bode" ... I'd have a dropout about once a half hour with my Soundblaster PCI512 running at 40 something ms latency... was able to get it down to 7ms but the dropouts increased...the only problem I ran into stability wise is Mozilla 1.7 seems to have a memory leak that catches up with me after three days :) ... I should also mention I was doing a lot of things that would cause it to dropout that I wouldn't do while recording... like running system updates and surfing the web... :)
This weekend I'll busy pulling a couple thousand feet of mic cable for my church...spent today mapping out the conduit...thats an adventure... we can fit 68 channels of mic into the alter area alone... the band area has another 36 channels available...104 channels total possible (and we could cram more in there) ...we only need 10 mics for everything... well some of these are for returns...
I've never used a modular synth before so I can get sound out of it...but not nice sounds :) some of the presets are very nice though...like the bode...
I'll try to throw some noise together tonight ...though bear in mind I'm a drummer and have no concept of melody :)
I'll also have to switch over to my new server as my current one is old and full... the newer one was so loud though.. I just started pulling fans and backup power supplies out until it failed... now it's not so deafening :)
signal routing gets easier as I get used to it... it's odd to have App#3 direct the audio stream of App#2 into App#1 without Apps#1&2 giving a rats *** as to whats going on.
Dec 02, 2005 07:01 pm wow Zek!! that's fun stuff....i'd love to try out stuff like that...
i use ADAT everyday, we've got an RME card on the computer that's got 6 lightpipe connectors (3 in / 3 out) PLUS a 2 channel SPDIF for monitoring.... this gives me 26 channels of IN/OUT from my board (mackie D8B) to the computer....add a midi interface, and it controls Cubase! Hi-OH!
Dec 02, 2005 08:49 pm WYD: update you profile!! :)
which card and what preamps are you using? I would preferr to build a RME system but I've only used an Aardvark Q10 so that "non all in one" hardware is fairly foreign to me..
Dec 02, 2005 09:07 pm I beleive ADAT can go to 96K now by multiplexing 2 channels, which means u would have 4 channels at 96K sample rate. Still not bad.
Dec 11, 2005 08:43 pm haha yeah my profile is my home setup...at work i'm runnin' a Mackie D8B to an RME Hammerfall card....the mackie has 24 pre's on it and i've always used those stock pre's....haha i've only used my Blue Tube once or twice!!! RME has got a ROCK SOLID reputation for digital audio, and we needed something with 24 I/O's....so ADAT was the ONLY way we could take full advnatage of all those channels.
i'll hafta get a myspace page up for my work studio....
Dec 12, 2005 10:44 am I always thought it was that Alesis Digital Audio Tape - those machines that used Super VHS to record onto. Great sound, as I remember. You could string a bunch together......
Dec 12, 2005 03:36 pm ADAT is an Alesis protocol, first came out with the DAT machines. ADAT is Alesis Digital Audio Technology, originally used with Digital Audio Tape machines. 8 channels of 48kHz, 24 bit audio is its "maximum". However, S-MUX has come along (I forget what the acronym stands for), which allows doubling and tripling the pipes. In wyd's case, the 3-ins can give him 24 inputs over ADAT at 48k-24b or 12 inputs @ 96k-24b (I think - it's been a while since I did my research).
www.rme-audio.com/english/hammer/d9652.htm
Actually, the RME and DigiDesign web sites are both good references for ADAT info, as is the Alesis site (you have to "hunt", though...)
for zekthedeadcow:
lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2000/Oct/0081.html
for an interesting link...
Dec 16, 2005 07:34 pm Hey zekthedeadcow,
I set up a Linux recording studio with an RME HDSP9652 and a Presonus DigiMAX 96k, and it works great. I'm running the rig on the Planet CCRMA build of Fedora Core 3, but I'm thinking of migrating to Arch Linux, because I hate rpms, and Arch is sweet and does what I tell it. In the CCRMA FC3 build, Ardour, the multitrack DAW hooks the HDSP inputs right up to the tracks you create automatically.
I really recommend it if you a)would rather avoid Windows, and b)you can't afford a Mac. And if you're a Linux nerd. I figure I'll get a Mac later after the migration to the Intel processors, if they're any good.
I've also got an Event EZBUS that I got a few years ago, and I use it to monitor, and can use it for some lower-quality inputs if I want to record a whole bunch of tracks live. I've recorded a total of 12 tracks simultaneously without my system crapping out, and it cost about $750 + $450 for the RME card, because I already had RAM, etc.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice Core)
1GB dual channel PC3200 DDR-RAM
NF4-SLI Motherboard
Geforce 6600GT 128MB PCIe
100GB WD IDE, OS
120GB WD SATA, Music library
200GB Samsung Spinpoint SATA, Recording
Antec P180 tower
Antec 350W silentpower
RME HDSP9652
The Venice core Athlons run at full load at 30W (as opposed to their previous line at 70W, and P4s, which run at 60W to over 100W), and overclock really well. I overclocked the CPU and RAM clocks from 200 to 216 in BIOS, and it runs completely stable without a voltage change.
I plan on, flow permitting, adding 2 more identical Spinpoints and a RAID card and setting up RAID 5 for total redundancy and greater speed. Also, twice the RAM would be nice. But all's well at the moment. I can even apply effects on the fly with 8 tracks playing back. I'm pleased with it.
Dec 16, 2005 09:33 pm hopefully I can get this stuff and a bunch of gift cards lined up after christmas. January's looking good financially... just really cold... building a garage... should get a couple thousand out of it for myself.
I'm really thinking about getting an old SCSI Ultra160 array going soon with some cheap 10gig drives as I've never gone over 50gig on an audio project... and I'm having problems this year with headcrashes so the redundancy would help alot :) I could get an Ultr320 array when I start doing more intensive video work again.
Dec 19, 2005 09:31 am I have heard recordings done in peoples house's at 44.1 KHz and they sound awsome. Because of this, I never worry about sample frequency anymore. Not much DVD work in my future either. Just music. I would like to get some better converters and a real nice set of Pre's though. That is a where the pro sound comes from in my opinion.
Dec 19, 2005 09:32 am Well, the industry is adopting DVD audio standards, even audio only recordings will be in high resolution before too long...
Dec 19, 2005 02:55 pm scary, ain't it, dB? 40gig drive for 2 tracks... Won't take long and 192k will be "lo-fi"... lol
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