Delta 1010, Firewire 1814
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Posted on Nov 30, 2005 01:42 am
fredzs
Member Since: Jan 07, 2003
whats the diff ?? theyre both the same price.. yet the Firewire 1814 is mobile ??
the only diff that i see is that the firewire has 4 line outs when the delta has 8 line outs..
are the insert jacks on the ub2222-fxpro line level ??
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pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Nov 30, 2005 08:27 am the delta has a PCI card that you install into a computer, not usable on a laptop.
the firewire, well, plugs in via firewire, so you can use on PC or laptop, whatever has a firewire port on it.
inserts should be line level. I don't think they'd be useful if they weren't.
fredzsMember
Since: Jan 07, 2003
Nov 30, 2005 08:58 am so its better to get the 1814?? since its interchangeable ?? and it has adat thingie ?
Nov 30, 2005 08:59 am Do you have anything that could use the "Adat Thingy"
Nov 30, 2005 09:14 am Well for one thing the 1010 does not have built in preamps of any sort. Which I prefer for the flexibility of changing out your preamps which I believe make a greater contribution to your signal coloration than differences between prosumer+ converters.
The 1010 also lacks: a headphone jack, a hardware volume knob and as mentioned machine portability.
The firewire 1814, on the other hand looks like it has 2 mic pres and 8x4 analog
(line level) I/O at up to 24-bit/96kHz.
Both have 1x1 MIDI, BNC wordclock connectors and spdif.
To me it would come down to this, if you are going to need more than two mics at a time, you are going to need an 8 channel mic pre (which can be had for as cheap as $100.00US) with either unit and I would probably go for a (used eBay) delta, if not definitely go with the firewire.
(as an aside make sure you have the proper service packs installed that deal with XPsp1's issues with firewire.)
The need for more than two mics might arise if you are mic'ing drums with a kick, snare, and two overheads (possibly individual tom mics as well, like the e-604s).
I use the additional outs of the delta for: 2 mains, 4 individual sends to blend "more me" on a headphone amp, and 2 spare for either reamping guit or and external effects loop.
I would hazzrd a guess that inserts are always line level, since they always are "inserted" after the pre amp.
HTH
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Nov 30, 2005 09:36 am I thought ADAT was for hooking up additional input devices, like 8 channel preamps, and the like. So you can add 8 more inputs channels. It may not be an issue if you're not going to be tracking 20 or so tracks.
I didn't think of the 'more me' with using more outs. That's a cool idea.
Some people may be a little leary tracking 8 channels at once through a firewire port. The 1010 is long in the tooth, but it's got very stable history, with it's PCI card and breakout box. The FW may (or may not) be a little more flakey with certain firewire ports. If you're inclined to travel from one PC to another, then FW may be a much better solution.
Also, the 1814 is younger, so it's feature set may be better, software wise. I'm thinking that the more recent it's release, the more up-to-date it's software compliment may be.
I'd read through as many reviews as I could to see how stable the 1814 is, people like to give opinions. Check harmony central.
Also, like netstats mentioned, the preamp thing. none on 1010, 2 on 1814. this may be an issue, but you'll need preamps for both if your tracking more than 2 mics. Seems like the behry mixer would fit the bill nicely for both interfaces.
Nov 30, 2005 11:12 am "I didn't think of the 'more me' with using more outs. That's a cool idea."
Hey pjk,
I am using the behringer 4 channel headphone amp with the mains going in the back (of course) and the directs from the 1010 going in the front direct input jack, each channel on the HPamp is set to mono.
I routed the delta's H/W inputs 1-2 & 3-4 to HW outs 3-4 & 5-6 using the delta's mixer applet.
I created a template in sonar that has a send on inputs 1-4 to a headphone bus.
The monitors are daisy chained off the HPamp.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Nov 30, 2005 11:18 am cool, i knew that the software app for the delta can do this, but never had a real kick-start to make it happen. I don't remember if my HPamp had individual inputs, I don't think it did, so I couldn't have anyway. But my next one will =)
I end up using the mixer main outs to feed my monitors, then use ctrl room out to feed the HPamp. I'm going to be re-setting it all back up when the studio's finished, so I'll be playing with it more, maybe setting it up in different ways.
