Recording Equipment for a PC

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Member Since: Aug 10, 2005

Hey there everyone, I am looking into buying equipment to do in-home recording on my PC. I was wondering if anyone here could tell me what equipment i would need to do so on somewhat of a budget? Most of the recording i plan on doing will be for a heavy metal band and i would GREATLY appreciate any help you can give me on this topic. Thank you.


-danny

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 11:30 am

Welcome to HRC.

For a quick answer, as this question is asked often, read the FAQ's at www.homerecordingconnection.com/faq.php and read www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=581

Member
Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 11:32 am

awesome, thank you, just off the top of someones head, how much would it cost for me to buy just what i need to get started? I already have a great PC and soundcard and all that jazz.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 11:35 am

hehehe, well, thats a generic question...and, now realize I have to ask this...what is your definition of a "great soundcard"...I ask this because what the common computer use sees as a great sound card is often SoundBlasters, which, when it comes to multitrack recording is really not generally up to the task.

That said, the price is very dependent on how you want to record...one instrument at a time or many at once? Live drums or sequencing? How many mics on the drums if live kits? do you want to keep all drum mics on separate tracks?

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Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 11:38 am

well i have an Audigy platinum ex that im currently using reviews.cnet.com/Creative..._7-7029828.html
its soundblaster, but it is a higher quality one, if this isn't good for recording, what should i purchase instead?

Member
Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 11:39 am

i'd like to record just one insturment at a time, and i want the drums to sound alright, so i will use 3 mics for the drums.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 11:43 am

Well, yes, that is one of the better ones...but it's still limiting. Don't get me wrong, many people do record with SB's and get decent results...it's just not as easy and the card can only handle so much full-duplex usage (audio going in and out at the same time). Also, it limits you to recording one stereo signal or two mono signals at the same time and no more.

Do you have a mixer? Any microphones yet? You should fill out your gear profile so we know what we are working with.

You can't run mics directly into a sound card, you need to have a preamp, which mixers have, or a standalone preamp unit. Then after that running the signal to the sound card. The m-audio Delta 44 sounds like it would work for you, having 4 ins and outs. service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear


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Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 11:49 am

No sir, as of now i do not have any gear, ive been spending some time reading about everything and looking into hardware. I'd like to keep everything as pc based as possible, and reduce the amount of hardware i need to have. I am pretty much a complete beginner to all of this, but I'm determined to learn all that I can. Thanks again for your time helping me, i really do appreciate it :)

-danny

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 11:55 am

no prob, glad to help, thats why I built this site in the first place. :-)

Well, I admire the goal of having as little hardware as possible, I do that myself.

One possible solution is something like service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear which is a sound device that has gotten good reviews (I haven't used it myself though) and has preamps built into it and comes with multitracking software. The only issue that requires hardware (especially in heavy metal) is an outboard compressor...

Member
Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 12:01 pm

So i would need an outboard compressor in addition to a package of that sort? Anything come to mind that would work well with something like this?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 12:06 pm

Yeah, an outboard compressor is always nice to have, but should work in a loop or sidechain, not directly between mic and preamp...so any sort of a vocal processor or preamp unit that has compression built in would be cool, none come to mind right away.

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Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 12:08 pm

k what should i look for in mic's for the vocals, i need something that won't distort easily "for screaming and what not".

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 12:10 pm

I'll let somebody else handle this, mics ain't my forte'...I use an SM57 for everything :-)

Member
Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 12:47 pm

is this service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
the same as this service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
just a better product?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 10, 2005 12:56 pm

At a basic level yes, they are sound devices with preamps and such. The Firepod you will need to make sure your computer has a firewire interface...I would suggest that is the superior device...and comes with great software in Cubase. The mBox is nice as well, but you then get assimilated into the ProTools collective which you may regret down the road...maybe not...

The Presonus just has more preamps and a bigger I/O...which is good...especially when you start recording drums and maybe get more mics and such...it'd be a great solution for now and for a long time to come.

edit0r
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Since: Aug 17, 2004


Aug 10, 2005 07:19 pm

57's sound real good for screaming apparently

Mettalica used one in St. Anger for the hard core parts... I think

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Since: Jun 24, 2004


Aug 10, 2005 07:22 pm

St. Anger....ewwwwwww!

Sorry.

edit0r
Member
Since: Aug 17, 2004


Aug 10, 2005 07:26 pm

yea i know, tis pretty bad. but hey if i ever get to record them, i wont complain :)

And they did some pretty interesting stuff recording wise.

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Since: Aug 10, 2005


Aug 10, 2005 07:26 pm

haha, alright i'll look into the 57's then, thanks for the tip. and i agree with the post above^ :).

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Since: Jan 07, 2003


Aug 24, 2005 08:33 pm

with the firepod.. do i still need a mixer ?

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Since: Aug 17, 2005


Aug 25, 2005 01:59 am

St. Anger was a terribly recorded album I am sad to say. I love metallica but they just totally bullshitted that.

Oh right we're talking about computer recording.

Danny, for screaming, you definitly want a dynamic mic, unless you plan to destroy a condensor, I wouldn't reccomend that, they can get pretty pricey. Anywho, for a nice dynamic, like everyone says, a shure sm 57. They're standard everywhere. I mean it, every-where. If you want to go for something cheap, I've used Nady SP-9's, and before everyone freaks out for me mentioning a mic under $50, I will say that I have had great success with them. you can pick them up on musician's friend for like 20 bucks, or a 3 pack for like 50.

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Since: Sep 17, 2004


Aug 26, 2005 01:22 pm

metallica is still a band? i thought they broke up when cliff burton died?

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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Aug 26, 2005 02:02 pm

Quote:
with the firepod.. do i still need a mixer ?


Not really, the firepod will give you 8 preamps, and the preamps will probably be better than most consumer/home recording mixers. It will also give you the outs you need, so you can monitor without a problem.

All the benefits I can think of for having a mixer is already taken care of with the firepod.

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