Aug 07, 2005 07:13 pm Just a thought...If its only for practice, why not get a smaller combo amp for 200$?. Of course this probably wont work too well if you have to play shows with it.
Behringer V-tone
Posted on Aug 07, 2005 06:00 pm
Psytoxic
Member Since: Aug 07, 2005
My little brother plays guitar for my "band" (I drum) and the amp head that we were using went overseas with my older brother. So now were without guitar amplification but left with the crate 4*12 cabinet and not much funds. We just need something to practice on, doesnt have to be real fancy, so we're looking at a Behringer V-tone GMX 1200H head on musicians friend.com for $200. Is it any good, and if not, do you have any other suggestions? Thanks
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Aug 07, 2005 07:13 pm Just a thought...If its only for practice, why not get a smaller combo amp for 200$?. Of course this probably wont work too well if you have to play shows with it.
Aug 07, 2005 08:21 pm Well, we had that in mind, but we figured since we have a cab sittin around we should take advantage of it. P.S. That head is 120 watt
Aug 08, 2005 09:55 pm well thats good to know, i was thinking about getting one of them...
it totally makes sense in wanting a decent powered head to go with your cabinet... look for a used one.
Aug 08, 2005 10:00 pm psytoxic,
where did you here that the powerblock overheats? nobody mentions that in the reviews on HC
www.harmony-central.com/G...ock_Head-1.html
Aug 09, 2005 06:42 am The combo amp idea is stupendous. If you're going to play bigger places, take the cab with ya and plug into it also. Most combo amps have an "Ext Spr" jack in addition to their own speaker(s). Just be sure the amp can drive the cabinet. When you play smaller places, take just the combo amp and save your muss-kells a bit of work... 'Course, combo amps are usually heavier and bulkier than just a head...
Contrary to some belief, you don't *need* a ton of RMS wattage for a guitar amp. I had a 200w stack that went with us whether we played a 12x15 living room or a 75x200 hall. The result was the same. I *never* got to turn it up over about 4 (Edit: not even for the outdoor stuff). For one thing, the rest of the band (including the drummer, but especially the PA) couldn't keep up... Not to mention the bleeding ears after going up over 4, and that's where the amp got to soundin' good! I figured I'd get me a 165w combo.. big help, right? I shoulda gone with 85-100w MAX! We mic'd everything anyway, so if the band got louder, I'd get louder with them, but yet my amp wouldnlt have cost as much, or have to be turned up so loud for it to hit it's stride.
Aug 09, 2005 02:28 pm good point jmail... But the only place we would ever go is to my freinds house where he has a crate 120 watt full stack so... I dont really need to worry about carrying it around. My older brother had an Idea that we could just get an fx proccessor and a clean power amp and plug that into the cab. That idea struck this thought...(i dont really know how this stuff works so forgive me if i sound crazy) Would it work if we ran the guitar through an FX pedal then a 400 watt powered mixer and into the cab? This would be be useful because i could also plug my drum mics into it when recording.
Aug 09, 2005 05:44 pm Sure, but ya gotta match impedance and power levels between amps & speakers. Your cab is most likely a 4 or 8 ohm cab. The amp may want a 2, 4 or 8 ohm load. Also, the 4x12 guitar cab is built for guitar. Hi-power-level guitar. Very "mid-rangie" and generally one-dimensional. A powered mixer is designed (generally) for a full-spectrum frequency response for sound re-inforcement applications (just a fancy way to say "PA"). But, yeah, that's the way we had to do it for a while. Your effects pedal is like a pre-amp, so be sure to use the line-in and turn the mixer's gain down all the way when you plug in, and come up slow as the guitar is played. If you use PA speakers with the powered mixer, watch your horns, they'll blow easy with guitar.
Aug 14, 2005 02:56 pm How many watts from a tube amp does it take to keep up with drums easily?
Aug 14, 2005 05:36 pm Our guitarist uses a 40 watt fender tube amp and keeps up with drums. So I'd say anywhere from 35 and up depending on music style and how loud your drummer hits. But don't forget that if you need to go any louder you can just mic it and send it though the PA.
Edit: Not to mention if you do go with a tube combo amp then you will also get much better sound and tone that the crate stack.
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