Noob minimalist setup

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Member Since: Aug 01, 2005

Hi there.
I spent yesterday searching this site and these forums for some answers to a specific question and while I receieved a great amount of helpful introductory info on setting up my home recording rig, I still have a couple of noob questions that I would be thankful if anyone can answer.

First, I am a songwriter who wants to have a minimal introductory setup to be able to record and multitrack song arrangements. At first it will be just guitars and vocals, single input.

Perhaps later I will need to upgrade to where I can either mix multiple mikes or have multiple inputs, but for now budget is key so one input is all I need.

I have pretty much chosen cubase on the recommendation of many here but I am wondering if it has a drum machine built in cause I need to sequence drum backing tracks.

Vocally I'm just gonna buy an SM57 to get started and that can double as a live guitar mike if need be.

The real issue for me though that wasn't answered is that of budget. I am really stretched for cash (a working musician!!) and I only want to spend somewhere between 200 and 400 dollars to get started. So I am wondering if you have any recommendations.

I have looked at the packages at ZZounds and MF and I'm wondering if I should go one of those or just buy individual components. I guess I need a soundcard, software and Im not sure what else. (I'll prolly buy the SM57 on ebay or something - so that is not necessarily included in that budget).



Thanks a lot

PS: Has anyone checked out those Guitar Port things? Are they useful for recording? Would that be a good option? Can you use them with an acoustic electric guitar, rather than straight electric?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Aug 01, 2005 02:42 pm

www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=578 is my review of GuitarPort, personally, in a minimalist setup, I think it could be very effective.

As I recall Cubase does have a drum sequencer built in (I am a Sonar man myself, so don't quote me). Software comes with many sound cards. Look into a M-Audio 2496 or an ESI Juli@ for your needs. I have used them both for single tracks at a time recording, currently using Juli@, and they both do a decent job for a decent price and come with some software that is AT LEAST good enough to get you going, saving you the immediate expense of software in addition to everything else.

Welcome to HRC.

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Since: Jan 12, 2004


Aug 01, 2005 02:47 pm

Welcome to HRC...

OK, you can buy on Ebay if needed or you can buy from MF (I believe one fo the cheapest in the USA)...

For a card, I recommend this puppy - top quality, covers your needs and NOT expensive:
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear

A 57 is a very good choice and as ye say, can do all ye need. I see these for about £50 on ebay so in US$ thats about $100 (you may get it cheaper on US Ebay) or ye can get it from MF also here service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear - find out all about it - it is a kickass mic tho and suited for everything...very good indeed.

As for software, I use Cubase myself - you can check out the reviews on ths site but if yer going for Cubase, again, its cheap as chips at the MF: service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear - this version is the lower end and would also fit your needs, comes with MIDI (which allows you to design drums) and is a great app, leading on to a great foundation in learning the app to maybe one day move on to the SX versions (tho not for a newbie I recommend!!).

Anyways, have fun and be sure to read as much as you can on these items...there are many other choices available but these are what I would maybe use in your situ.

Also, ye may want to check the Studio Gear reviews here on this site and judge for yerself if there is something better.

Finally - dB Masters just done a review on the USB guitar port you mention - awesome apparently..have a look around and read it..very good read.

Good luck and again, welcome.

Coco.


Member
Since: Aug 01, 2005


Aug 01, 2005 03:03 pm

you guys r awesomely helpful
thx a lot
it just so happens a guy is selling one of those M-Audio soundcards on Portland (my city) craigslist today but as usual on craigslist they are asking over the MF price doh!


JJ

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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Aug 01, 2005 06:35 pm

Craigslist can be a good resource, but don't forget that you can check out ebay for your soundcards as well...

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Aug 03, 2005 08:47 am

Just to chime in late . . .

You'll need a preamp of some sort. To up the mic level signal to line level signal which the computer can use. If you get a card with a built-in preamp, then you'll be set (though limited on growth). If you get a small mixer, you can add a few items, and route a little more robustly (which wouldn't be a bad idea). Also, you can get a standalone preamp, to plug directly into your soundcard (instead of a mixer).

Just thinking out loud . . .

SM57 - 90$ new, 75$ used
Mixer - 100$ new, 75$ (or less) used
or
Preamp - 50$ - 100$ range
Software 100$ ( audacity, and kristal are free)
Cables 30$
Mic stand - 20$ - 35$ range

Of course, all these values can be different, just throwing out some ideas of a minimalist setup.

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