the kick drum better watch where its steppin...

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Member Since: Apr 27, 2002

cause its steppin all over my damn bass tracks...

no matter what i do...i cannot get my bass and kick tracks to sit together at all...and im getting pretty frustrated, i almost want to cry...i actually put another post on here a couple months back about how i cant do this...and after months of practice...i STILL CANNOT DO IT...ive even gone as far as using spectrum analyzers (although i have to admit, the one i had confused the bee-jeezus out of me) dont get it...are you just born knowing how to do this? or what? cause i cant...and its getting real old real quick...anyone have this problem? i want to start a support group...

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JR Productions
Since: Mar 03, 2005

Jul 28, 2005 10:55 pm

This is something that I haven't tried yet but I want to. Use a compressor and send the kick drum signal into the sidechain while compressing the bass. This way, you will be able to hear the kick when it hits, and the bass when it doesn't. BTW I didn't think of this my self I read it in Recording Magazine. Im intreseted to see how this works so if you could post back if you try it that would be great. Good luck.

Since: Apr 27, 2002

Jul 29, 2005 02:52 am

ill be trying that tomorrow...although...i havent quite figured out how to use the sidechain feature in Nuendo...but ill try something...

Since: Aug 17, 2004

Jul 29, 2005 03:43 am

I cut the Kick at about 400 hertz, and boost the bass at 400 Hz cause thats where alot of the bass attack is. (plus a really good engineer told me too :P).

Also I like to give the bass a good boost at about 5 K, and the kick at about 2.5 K.

And I'll probably cut quite a lot of the lows out of the bass (120Hz. or something) and give the kick a good chest thumping oomf. Depending upon the song.

That side chain thing that josh rose is talkin about works quite well, but as i work in cubase, there is no easy way to sidechain things so i havent really had a play with it....

But hey, I dont always do this.

You should start a support group, god knows I'll join.....

Since: Apr 27, 2002

Jul 29, 2005 12:47 pm

in theory all of this sounds awesome...every time i see anything about making these two instruments seems to make so much sense...but i still screw it up....but at about 2 o'clock im going to sit down and not get up until i figure it out...

Hold 'Em Czar
Since: Dec 30, 2004

Jul 29, 2005 05:07 pm

yep, i cut my kick at around 150-300, and i cut the bass at around 80-150...NO MORE than -12db's...also i filter everything below 50hz on the bass.

I am not a crook's head
Since: Mar 14, 2003

Jul 29, 2005 05:44 pm

I kind of have the opposite problem in my most recent mix (the neverending mix that i've been working on for months now). My kick really doesn't have any definition when the bass is playing. It sounds great alone, but it loses its thump when its combined with the bass.

Since: Aug 17, 2004

Jul 29, 2005 07:35 pm

Maybe its becuse you turn your D112 around to point towards the resonant head instead of the beater :D

By doing this your effectivly cutting out the HF content of the bass drum, and replacing it with lower LF (as lf's are omnidirectional because of their long wavelangths, they dont get cancelled out by the D112's cardiod response as easily as the HF's)

Do you mic the beater for click as well?

I think the HF content plays a very importent role in the sound of the kick drum.

It may sound good on its own, but will it sound good in the mix?

My two NZ cents

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