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RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 02, 2005 08:55 pm

im sorry for being annoying, and constantly asking questions..

but i recently got the yamaha 10/2 mixer, and i need help...

I have the autocom xl 1600, and the parametric eq 2200, how do I connect that to the insert line???

and i have the line out from my pc into C-R,Phones, and when I go to record, its recording the beat as well, and i know my headphones aren't bleeding, and it doesnt have MIC TO TAPE or MIX TO CONTROL ROOM button like my old Behringer Ub 802 mixer, so i dunno what the problem is...

can you help me?
whosyourdaddy00
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Since: Dec 30, 2004
May 03, 2005 11:12 am

you need to get a "Y" cable, which is one 1/4" TRS on one end and two 1/4" mono plugs on the other...plug the TRS into the "insert" jack of the mixer...one plug is the "send" which goes into the input of the autocom, the other is "return" which goes into the output of the eq. use a single 1/4" mono cable to connect the output of the autocom and run that into the input of the eq....acuually you should have the eq before the compressor so reverse what i just said to accomidate.

peace

wyd
RobertJ
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May 03, 2005 04:41 pm

okay, ima do that tonight..

i still need help with this problem

and i have the line out from my pc into C-R,Phones, and when I go to record, its recording the beat as well, and i know my headphones aren't bleeding, and it doesnt have MIC TO TAPE or MIX TO CONTROL ROOM button like my old Behringer Ub 802 mixer, so i dunno what the problem is...
whosyourdaddy00
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May 03, 2005 04:45 pm

dont' run the computer's line out to the mixer unless you can send it to a subgroup that is not gonna go out to the mains....
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 03, 2005 05:07 pm

what would be a subgroup on my mixer?
whosyourdaddy00
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May 03, 2005 06:05 pm

crap you don't have one on your's.....lemme dig up a pic and see if i can help ya...
Tadpui
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May 03, 2005 06:06 pm

The MG 10/2 doesn't have subgroups. There's only 1 mix you can hear. If you can hear it on your headphones, then it's going out the main outs.

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whosyourdaddy00
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Since: Dec 30, 2004
May 03, 2005 06:12 pm

ok hook up the computer's line out to the "two track in" RCA input....and the main out to the "line in" on your computer......i'm not sure if you're two track input will be routed to your main out...and hook you're monitors/speakers, into the CR (control room) output, which i think may be the same as your headphones....ugh confused yet? cuz i am
whosyourdaddy00
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May 03, 2005 06:18 pm

OOOOOOOh!!

hook up your computer's line out to the "record in"!!!!!

i bet that'll work
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 03, 2005 06:33 pm

i have 2tr and rec out
RobertJ
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May 06, 2005 07:35 pm

whitch one should i use?
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 06, 2005 07:36 pm

2tr is what I tried, and then music still got routed to my main outs..

and rec out, the volume was to low in my monitors... i need so much help...

errrrrr
whosyourdaddy00
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May 06, 2005 07:38 pm

is there any way you can hook up your speakers without gooin' through the mixer?
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 06, 2005 10:42 pm

yeah, now that i think about it yes there is...

but i still would like to go thru the mixer.. i know there is way, there has to be...lol..

dB Masters
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May 06, 2005 10:50 pm

wait now, if you are doubling up on the recording of the second track, it's also getting the first track mixed in, then just stop running the line out of your sound card back into the mixer...which I assume you are doing given the problem you are having, if not, explain your signal path.
RobertJ
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May 06, 2005 11:20 pm

no

I have my line out from my stock soundcard to my mixer, my mixer main outs to the external soundcard...

Im only running the signal once...im not doubling the track.

when i go to record a verse, it gets signaled to the app, but for some reason the beat i sent into the mixer from line out on the soundcard is getting into the signal path of the main outs..
dB Masters
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May 06, 2005 11:39 pm

OK

I will give you a friendly bit of advice, take it for what you feel it's worth.

Forget you have the stock sound card, if it's anywhere in the chain, it'll generally cause nothing but headaches. Only use the inputs and outputs from the MobilePre...start from there and lets see what you can get cookin.
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 07, 2005 09:58 am

okay so how would I go about doing that....?

set the mobile pre as my default play back device, then then from the output on , mobile pre to 2tr on my mixer, then my main outs back into channel one on my mobile pre..

is that wat u mean?
dB Masters
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May 07, 2005 11:11 am

Hell, I wouldn't use the mixer at all. The mobiel pre has preamps on it. Run the instruments into the mobilepre directly, use it's preamps, or line ins, whichever is needed...then the outs right to your amp/speakers...if your sound device has preamps such as the MobilePre, you don't need a mixer unless you have more than two mics you are trying to mix down to two tracks before recording...
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 07, 2005 02:51 pm

what about my autocome and parametric eq, how would i connect them?
cocofromscotland
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Since: Jan 12, 2004
May 07, 2005 02:56 pm

Those are 19" rackmount bits of gear which are usually run as Insert effects on a mixer...that would be an issue to a point.

However, ye can route the signal into the 19" gear and then out the 19" gear into the MobilePRe - its not optimal but I do that / done that before and its not all that bad...just not ideal. But, surely is do-able for sure!

I woul think (someone chime in if I am wrong) ye can daisy chain the Autocom and EQ so ye go in one, route the signal oot the other into the soundcard...

good luck

Coco.
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 07, 2005 10:29 pm

well i have the mixer so i wanna use it, becuz Im gettin a few more mics... so i really need help, cuz i dont know how to route the line out from my pc to my mixer without the signal getting routed to the main outs..
jmail
jimmie neutron

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Since: Feb 14, 2005
May 08, 2005 06:23 pm

You can use your Aux send/return as effects paths, leaving your insert jacks as line-outs to the digital interface. That would give you 2 more mic pres. Take a regular patch cable (short instrument cable) and insert it to the 1st click on your Yamaha's Insert jacks. That will give you the line-out of that channel, pre-fader & EQ (usually). Take those to your computer interface line-ins. I can't tell what they did with the 3 & 4 channels on that thing; you'd have to look in the owner's manual for more details.

You could go with 2 mics on your interface pre-amps, 2 mics on the Yamaha 1 & 2 (XLR), using partially inserted cables in the Insert to 2 line ins on the interface. "Mute" the 2 in the Yamaha (bring the gain slider all the way down, if there isn't a "mute" button). Now you can plug your computer output into the mixer and not get feedback or "doubling" of the tracks. However, you do loose the option of the effects on the recording, which isn't bad anyway. Most folks record "dry" and add effects in the mix-down.
RobertJ
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Since: Dec 05, 2004
May 08, 2005 08:58 pm

okay so i can do this use my insert as a line out..
Ex:

1st Mic in to Channel 1 Mic Pre on the mixer
Insert to Parametric eq then to compressor, then to interface channel 1...using 1/4 to 1/4 mono cable...

sorta like i did with my old mixer the ub802 cuz it didnt have inserts i used the mains outs...

2nd Mic in to Channel 2 Mic Pre on the mixer
Insert to channel 2 on Parametric eq then to compressor, then to the 2nd channel on the interface... using a 1/4 to 1/4 mono cable..


then the line out from my comp to 2tr and it'll be okay?
jmail
jimmie neutron

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Since: Feb 14, 2005
May 09, 2005 09:37 am

The idea with the "Insert" jacks on a mixer, is that line, and that line ONLY, goes to an effect. If you want more than one "channel" to share an effect, you'd use your "Aux" send/return for it. Put your mics in like you normally do, patch your two effects boxes like you normally do, but hook them up using the Yamaha's "Send Aux" to your 1st effect's input, and the "Return Aux" from the output of your 2nd device. Use the "Aux" knobs on the individual channels for the amount of signal to send to the effects, and the "Return" knob in the Master section to control the "wet" signal returning. (Or you could use another channel for the return, and to control the level.) Going by the looks of things, you've got a pre- and a post- fader Aux send, which is cool for such a little board. Also, you've got a stereo return.
whosyourdaddy00
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May 09, 2005 11:30 am

what he said.

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