we are winning!!!! Hit factory closing down

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Bohemian
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we're gonna conquer the world!

www.mtv.com/news/articles...?headlines=true

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Hold 'Em Czar
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Feb 18, 2005 05:29 pm

hmmmm i was happy at first, but now i kinda have mixed feelings....it's kinda sat to see a nice studio go under, i'd hate to shut down MY hit factory... but i guess you're right.

peace

wyd

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Feb 18, 2005 05:33 pm

Anywhere John recorded must be pretty cool...

But alas, if I canny afford to go there...shut it doon! hehe.

Coco.

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Feb 18, 2005 05:43 pm

i'll be watchin' ebay though!

Hello!
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Feb 18, 2005 05:43 pm

Aye...a big mixing desk starting at $1.00 with no reserve!! NOT LIKELY!! :-p

But, always worth a look ;-)

Coco

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Feb 18, 2005 05:45 pm

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...636764&rd=1

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Feb 18, 2005 06:53 pm

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Springsteen, Madonna, U2 among artists who recorded there.


woo hoo!! this is great!!

down with the man!!!




Freeleance Producer/Engineer/Gtr
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Feb 18, 2005 06:57 pm

That sucks... I heard Cello in LA just closed too.


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Feb 18, 2005 08:19 pm

yeah, this does suck

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Feb 18, 2005 08:25 pm

Suck? Suck? While, yes, it does suck for the business owner, that much sucks, but, as a sign of the shift of the industry, this is the bomb.

People do nothing but hope and pray that indie can make a stand on their own, then, a couple major studios shut down, signifying that the indie movement is working, and people say it's bad, sad or sucks? WTF?

Nobody really expected the movement to do it's thing without puting some people out of work did you? If so, I think you may need some basic lessons in economy and the marketplace...

Hold 'Em Czar
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Feb 18, 2005 08:37 pm

lol i understand, i just hate to see a beautiful studio, get renovated into ashley simpsons new hirise appartment!

peace

wyd

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Feb 18, 2005 08:54 pm

infact, now that i think about it, i mighta coulda worked their one day, in a place with that much history, i'd be honored....and it was absolutely not the studio's fault or choice about what kinda music they produced there....it was the record company's and such...but then again' they paid for all that gear too! haha oh well, like i said, i've got mixed feelings.

peace

wyd

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Feb 18, 2005 08:59 pm

sorry for having dreams.


I kinda really want to work in someplace like that someday.

And I will.

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Feb 18, 2005 09:31 pm

well, this opens room for some of us "little guys" to OWN someplace like that...

And, well, I dunno about you guys, but I assumed, the way the industry would shift, the studios that made their money from the labels business would be the first victims of the movement, not the label execs and stuff...

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Feb 18, 2005 10:07 pm

From my perspective, Yes... It sucks!

You think that the "BIG GUY" or studio owner ran those recording sessions? NO... it's engineers like us who run them and now there are less jobs available. Not to mention the many interns they had there that will now have to start a new internship all over again. So yeah...

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Feb 18, 2005 10:23 pm

Or, they can start their own studio like you did and make their own way. I always think it sucks when anyone looses a job, that does suck...I'd be a hypocrite to argue with that, I lost my job of 4+ years in September.

That said, I am extatic to a a switch in the economy, the fact they are shutting down means more people are doing it themselves, and that rocks.

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Feb 18, 2005 10:42 pm

True... what do you think about the quality of recordings to come, dB?

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Feb 18, 2005 10:48 pm

That is an entirely different subject, but, I would say it puts the success or failure of a band more squarely on THEIR shoulders than some slick production and marketing tactics from a P.R. machine...which can't be a bad thing.

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Feb 18, 2005 11:47 pm

i just read an article on CAKE in electronic musician, about how they just went ahead and rented a house, had a pro tools setup and recorded it by themselves!! this is what i like to see, less control by the little piggies wearing starched white shirts. :) more control by the musicians!

Hold 'Em Czar
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Feb 19, 2005 12:47 pm

yeah i'm a big DIY advocate on alot of issues, i read that article on Cake and most of my favorite albums were created that way, pantera's GST and RTS were both done that way, i dig the artistic freedom of that stuff, it yealds better art...

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than some slick production and marketing tactics from a P.R. machine


that slick production was done by some of the top people in our field, at the request of big lables, they got paid big to produce big slick results, through their expertiese they've polished a turd into marble. they were not guilty of anything.... that was their art.

peace

wyd

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Feb 19, 2005 01:46 pm

I have to go with el musico, I think it sucks. I guess if we want to go backwards in sound quality it will be okay.

Dan


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Feb 19, 2005 02:18 pm

so in effect you are saying all of us are going backwards in sound quality? I think not.

Obviously, not everybody will be good at DIY, but to say that as a whole sound quality will decrease is wrong and very presumptous. I think a lot of people here are making very high quality recordings, and because of that places like these studios that closed are increasingly unnecessary.

I think this friggin ROCKS for the industry shift, sucks for the people now unemployed, but, if they relied that heavily on big business like that, they will suffer with that business.

I am not a crook's head
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Feb 19, 2005 02:34 pm

I don't think that the home enthusiast has the funds to use the same quality of equipment that the big houses use.

I think that we can get "pretty darned good" sound quality by using our affordable equipment to its maximum potential, but not the "impeccable" quality that some studios can achieve by using the best of the best equipment to its maximum potential.

So I guess, yes sound quality would degrade as music making moves into the home from the studio. But, its not like we're all using Radio Shack microphones plugged straight into integrated AC97 sound cards. The average home enthusiast can still produce some pretty darn good stuff, as evidenced by the hobbyists here.

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Feb 19, 2005 02:37 pm

if by impacable quality you mean over-compressed, loud as it can be emotionless drivel with no dynamics, ya, I suppose. ;-)

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Feb 19, 2005 02:44 pm

Oh you cynic you! :-)

For what I would consider impeccable, check out "Hail To The Thief" by Radiohead or "Rift" from Phish. I think that those albums are so sparkly-clean that I couldn't ever come close with my budget or skills.

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Feb 19, 2005 02:54 pm

I think Tadpui has it right. While decent quality stuff is and can be done DIY, I have heard very little that has that studio polish to it. Then theres the loss of producers and engineers. How good do think the Beatles would have been/sounded without George Martin and the engineers to bring the vision to reality? It's the same today, and those things will disappear along with the top flight studios. If the money dries up for studios it dries up for all the other aspects as well and you quit attracting the talented people that make the difference between a DIY recording and a professional caliber recording.

Dan

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Feb 19, 2005 02:58 pm

well, isn't the whole reason we are here is to learn how to do it? Isn't that the whole point of this movement? To give the artist full control...it sounds as if now that a couple studios closed now people all of a sudden feel differently about they whole indie movement.

It's not like those producers do anything magical that us mortals can't learn to do...

I am really disappointed by the reaction I am seeing ...very shocked and disappointed.

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Feb 19, 2005 03:32 pm

The phrase Jack of all Trades come to mind... Good at many things, Master of none.

I disagree on the importance of a good producer and engineer. They are the directors of music, that can make a huge difference in the outcome of a project besides being just an objective ear. I would much rather spend my time making music, not figuring out how to get this or that done.

I seriously doubt the majority of "indie" artists really want to take on all the aspects of the music industry. Most just want to make music and use the tools available today simply as a means of hopefully one day getting noticed and "making it", just as it's been all along... new tools, same job.

Granted the closing of a couple of major studios doesn't signify the end, but if your vision of the indie movement were to come to pass, from the major record lables on down the food chain the music scene would be total chaos IMO.

Dan

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Feb 19, 2005 03:44 pm

you entirely misunderstand my vision then. I am not suggesting that all studios go under and everybody runs amuck doing their own thing. My vision is simply that indies have a fair and level playing field in a marketplace along side arganized labels...meaning that of course studios, mastering engineers, producers and such will still be available if the need be but that an indie can go it on his own if they choose to. The closing of a coupel porminent facilities indicates that that is happening, slowly, but happening non the less. That more people are succeeding in their own studios, even if it is already established stars in their "home studio" which would match any hitfactory room... :-)

Hold 'Em Czar
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Feb 19, 2005 04:08 pm

yeah the EP i'm workin' on now is gonna hold it's own with just about most of the stuff at your local music store (cept for that mixed "in the box" sound, which i have no control over at the present time) so by db's "fair and level playing field" i totally feel like i can come up with a good, quality sound. sure it might not be big budget polished, but ya know what **** that! what you'll hear on my recording is heartfelt, good 'ole boys, *** kickin' Rock and Roll....no middle men, no A&R reps, no sales quota nothin'....and that takes ALOT of pressure off EVERYONE involved in the process....now as for mass production, and distribution, we're screwed...i thought by now the net woulda leveled that playin' field more but it's a slower process.

old dog was on point with the jack of all trades....i was gonna be a rock star bass player, until i decided to try to record myself, now i've spent so much time, money, and effort into learnin' how to record, i'm definately not the bass player i used to be. musicians as artists need to focus and hone their craft at making beautiful, soulful music...sure the process is fun for them but they don't need to know the difference between a compressor and a limiter, the more time they spend tryin' to figure out how to record themselves, the less time there spendin' on practice and composition....that's whrere US little people come in, we love the art of recording, and i donno about y'all but i no longer consider myself a musician (although i play lots of music) i think of myself as an audio engineer/tech/producer/soundguy/audio consultant/jack of all trades except playin' music lol

anyway this is a good debate, i'm likin' it

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Feb 19, 2005 04:39 pm

Well I think already there is a pretty fair & level playing field these days, certainly better than at any other time in history, except as WYD points out Producition/Distribution along with Promotion, will always take money, and lots of it regardless whether it's a major label fronting it or the Artist IMO.

I doubt the indie movement has anything to do with prominent studio's closing anyhow, chalking up a win for the indies is not really the case, it's probably much more a product of the rampant stealing of music that is no doubt causing cutbacks on studio budgets from major labels.

IMO there is nothing stopping an Artist today from being a "star" of their own making except for the knowledge of how to get the job done, money (this will always be a factor) and of course creating music people want to hear.

Dan

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Feb 19, 2005 04:56 pm

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I doubt the indie movement has anything to do with prominent studio's closing anyhow, chalking up a win for the indies is not really the case


just gotta piss on the parade don't you.

I personally think you are at least half wrong. Sure, piracy and such is doing a number as well, depending on who's numbers you listen to and believe. However, there is no way that the fact everybody from local bands to major artists now have their own studios is not impacting the professional studio market.

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Feb 19, 2005 05:12 pm

No I'm not trying to piss on anybody's parade, but really how many local bands are using the likes of Hit Factory or other major studio? Now if we were talking small local studio's I'd say the indie movement might have a huge effect on them, it's certainly alot cheaper these days to go into a local studio. As for major artists I don't know how much of an affect they might have. I do know many major artists of the 70's & 80's had pro quality studio's in their homes, but the big time studio's still managed to survive then.

Heck who really knows what the reasons are, maybe everybody just started using a different studios. :) Besides sound more to me like downsizing, they are still keeping the Miami HF open.


Dan

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Feb 19, 2005 05:19 pm

[maybe everybody just started using a different studios. :)/]

lol

Hold 'Em Czar
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Feb 19, 2005 05:21 pm

lol@myself

i'm new at the quoting thing

gotta practice more!

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Feb 19, 2005 05:39 pm

i think this thread was intended to inspire moral tward the hopefuls that are working on there own recordings. I don't think it was suppose to be bring rivalry or speculation on my these studio's closed,it sucks the guys lost there jobs. I started out wanting to be a rock star,playing in bands and doing the scene. My gears have changed a bit since. Now I want to focus more on record and engineering , i still love to play and write music,but i do that for me. Recording has become my passion. There is a nice movment of "do it your self artists" but there is a whole lot more of "can't someone else do it" peopele out there not wanting or willing to take the time to learn the time consuming prosses of recording. So both argument here have good points , but none of it's that big of a deal . There will always be the need for the engineer, someone not in the band that can work all the knobs and buttons that the band doesn't want to deal with . Ask most guitar payer ,what they would like to have more ,a brand new super computer that has the dest sound cards,latest drivers,and all the plug-ins you could ask for,or the loudest coolest tub amp out partnered with a PRS (insert guitar of choice) ..most I've talked to would go for the latter..

peace

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Feb 19, 2005 06:38 pm

Overall, I hope the music wins... whether you do it yourself or if you pay a ton for it. It's the soulless execs that push for the hottest level possible thus destroying the musicality and thus create a society that doesn't know any different because they have been conditioned by years of this practice.

But as engineers who need to eat, you have to do what you are paid for... and it's the execs that pay the bill.

Now I've depressed myself! Thanks!

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Feb 19, 2005 08:05 pm

Wow, I got lots of thoughts on this one.

Honestly, if big studios continue to close down, I don't think it is the indie movement (how many indies were recording in these to begin with), I think it is more the major labels' own self destructive business tactics. They have been steadily putting out fewer and fewer albums over the last 5-10 years, and spending more and more money on marketing these albums. So, if less albums are being recorded, studios have less work, eventually they have to shut down. Couple this with the fact that even bigger groups (not neccesarily considered indie) are recording at "home" more and more and using the big studios solely for mix downs and mastering, and you now you have a bigger problem for the big studio.

Sure artists may not be able to get that super pristine sound that is achievable in the nicest studios, but they can get sound quality that is very very good (there are a few people here that can achieve it). But guess what, your average music listener doesn't care if you have the most pristine sound. Sorry super pro sound guys, but it's true! People still listen to oldies, and the sound quality on some of those songs is awful compared to todays standards (how about Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch by Temptations - I think). But the musical ideas still come across, and that is what listeners want to hear. Most of the stuff I listen to is not done in super nice studios. It's noticeable to me, but I don't care, it's more about the music, than the way it was recorded and what effects they put on it.

With all that being said, the "indie movement" still has a long way to go, cuz as oldog has alluded to, promotion takes money (and effort) and that's really the only way to get the word out. But us indies don't really have the resources to push as hard as the majors. It's definitely an uphill battle, and in the greater scheme of things, I could give a eff if these studios close down or not. It's really outside of my realm.

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Feb 20, 2005 05:44 am

Here's my simple take on this complex subject.

I could not honestly give a toss why these studios are closing but I COULD give a toss if less and less crap music is made (usually by the lifeless, uninspired, plastic crap music) they throw at us these days TELLING us it's the "next big thing".

Will this stop if the "big" Studios start to shut? Maybe - maybe not!

I dont know if you guys know of Daniel Beddingfield, I dont like him much but he's makin a career here in the UK. Some not bad songs, some crap. Point is, his WHOLE first COMMERCIALLY RELEASE album was written and recorded in his bedroom. I dont like the guy but I respect that he done it himself.

Dunno what extent he had it "finished" elsewhere i.e. mastering etc but at the end of the day, I get pissed off with people saying their music is better than x, y, z or me just cause they recorded it in a "professional" studio. Balls to that - its just a building, with some gear in it, run by a human being for the purposes of profit. I could entirely do the same quality with practice, training and time...and of course gear.

The point is, NOBODY has lost anything by these places shuttin other than the poor sodds who lost their jobs which is a shame. My point is - it CAN be done OUTWITH these big studios....and I hope for the sake of industry it is done elsewhere.....then it gives more credence to the smaller engineers/recording studios who care FAR MORE aboot the music than the lifeless, over compressed crap that I have to listen to on most radios these days.

As for George Martin - he is a pioneer and with the Beatles, changed the face of music forever. But there are less and less producers like him aroond these days and more and more pedalers of sedicious crap music in my honest opinion.

Anyways...rock on indies...

Coco.

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Feb 20, 2005 08:00 am

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it's probably much more a product of the rampant stealing of music that is no doubt causing cutbacks on studio budgets from major labels.


hmmmm,not sure im believing that one...if it is the reason i guess its all al gore's fault for inventing the interent.



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Feb 20, 2005 09:22 am

It is true indies likely don't use these facilities, but, the facilities that they do use, those being the higher end local studios, have been falling to the wayside for a long time due to the rising popularity of home recording. The only real increase in studios that are available are in the home studio market, where, people like many of us are, with low to midrange quality project studios have decided to start charging nominal fees to record other bands on their local scene. This is the type of thing that has driven many of the higher-end local houses out of business as it's pretty tough to compete with the prices of the project studios, and for most local peeps, price is often the bottom line.The fact it's so notable that these two have closed is simply due to the fact they are actually bigger, more reputable places, the trend has been going on at lower levels for a long time.

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Feb 20, 2005 10:28 am

Here's my 2 cents:

I have been through recording at "professional studios" many times in the past and have been on labels before that have the budgets for these type of projects.

The truth is that in those days studios/labels were attempting to make it something that you only could do if the label signed you to go into those kind of places to make your album. Now days, anyone can pick up their own rig, build a studio, and record an album.

I pretty much gave up on the "corporate/getting signed to a label" thing back in 2000 myself when I began to realize that I can do everything that the labels do for you myself caus I had the skills to network, I can record my own album, I can promote my own album, and I can make a decent living as long as I work hard and keep pushing the envelope and I don't have to pay a label or anyone else a percentage for doing anything for me as I do everything in house now so to speak.

I was offered a deal with a band that I play for by Sony in 2001, but I turned it down. When you think about it, all a record label does for you is gives you a giant loan that you have to pay back with interest so to speak. Anyone can take out a loan and study what they need to do to make it with an album and what not. Mind you that doing stuff on your own and being successful does take some business know how and what not, but anyone can learn and do it.

Bottom line about the big studios is that they are not getting the business that they used to. One of the "Pro studios" that I recorded in with a project had Bare Naked Ladies in the studio the week before me and Beck in the studio the week after me before, and the studio owner has also been a big time mentor to me on some of the business stuff in the recording world out there.

All of the bands out there now days are realizing after they see those of us who are doing it ourselves that they can do it too and that they don't need the labels and big studios to do it for them. Sure, some of the sound quality might turn out less "polished" than what a big studio could churn out, but it is all about being able to play your instruments anyhow. Do you think the big bands out there just fly by the seat of their pants and can't play their material.... Well, bottom line is the fact that a lot of them have session musicians that do their recordings for them, and then just teach them how to play it live afterwards, but there are those musicians that can really play out there which are the gems in the bunch.

We are entering a time where a lot of the older bands are dying off (no offense to anyone) by either old age, or other causes which somewhat breaks the ties to those era's where everyone is like... "Hey, why don't we try something new to do it better".

The Big 5 labels (or I should say Big 3 anymore) do not like this caus they are losing control of the market and people are turning them down because they are too greedy. Why would I want them to push my album for $20 a copy or something when I can bring it to consumers for a fair price of $10 and get more sales and keep all of the profits involved to invest back into my career and feed my family?

If you get past the idea of making millions and realize that the ride is all about getting by and putting food on the table and doing what you love for a living it is a lot easier to fathom, and things are not so far out of reach. ;)


With that said, I am living proof... not to toot my own horn, but after building my own studio from scratch, continuing to learn from my peers, and recording my own material for the past year now, I finished my debut solo album on my own and I am releasing it on March 25th. I am very proud of the fact that I did it all from writing, to recording, to production, mixing, mastering, artwork, pressing, promoting, web layout...etc.. It is very possible and with todays technology if you are willing to learn how to do stuff, you can do it too! :)

btw... as far as my album goes, if anyone is interested I have pre-sales up for $10 apiece in advance if anyone would like to help out a fellow musician. Please e-mail me to reserve a copy if you dig it. I am not collecting payment til March 25th. Thanks

Charlie

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Feb 21, 2005 05:21 pm

[quote If you get past the idea of making millions and realize that the ride is all about getting by and putting food on the table and doing what you love for a living it is a lot easier to fathom, and things are not so far out of reach. ;) /quote}


damn right man! i made a concious decision back in 1998 that i was gonna work in music....there was NO other choice....i figured i prolly won't make "rock star status" but once i met some people in the industry that were pretty well off (and debt free) i said "that's where i want to be" so i've spent every day working in music...recording, gooin' to shows, talkin' with other musicians, ect. ect. i figured if i associate myself with everyone i can that's involved with anything related to music, then that is one step in the right direction.

wyd

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Feb 21, 2005 07:37 pm

Riffgod and WYD this is akin to my thinking and why I spent a lot of time, energy and cash developing somethin I hope will grow and be used by INDIE artists. To me, its all aboot being in the scene - something I thought IMPOSSIBLE 10 short years ago...man, its cool now for sure.

I really am begining to loathe the big labels and get pretty pissed off at all the guff they throw oot these days...man, its just poor.

I cant wait for rock, geetars and REAL PEOPLE to make the big comeback I long for and hope for and I think the tides are changin and this IS happenin now.

So aye - the future is brighter than it was. If these places shuttin has that effect and vibe and encourages others to kick some *** and do it for themselves then am all for it!

Cool

Coco.

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Feb 21, 2005 09:20 pm

Quote from olddog "The phrase Jack of all Trades come to mind... Good at many things, Master of none."

Wow,That seriously sums it up for me that is exactly what iv'e been saying to myself all along just couldn't figure it out I knew I was a jack of all trades but I ALWAYS felt like I was missing something I never knew that was the true meaning of it "good at many things master of none" for what ever reason that struck me deeply,lol,seriously nothings better than self discovery this time I just needed anothers view to realize it.Iv'e been hard on myself because of it...Yeah,Jack of all Trades.Good at many things master of none....The Gift and The Curse.

-Thanks

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Feb 22, 2005 04:08 am

$.02-hue...
From the article :
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...the Hit Factory is shutting its doors for good — the victim of technological advances that made home recording cheaper and easier than the big-studio experience.


Music is a very personal thing . People are tired of being fed a generic-brand of a high-emotion staple . More and more people are making their own 'good' music, and that added to the fact that the big labels have a way destroying any vision outside of their own, has put them in a bad way with just about everyone who values the real deal . This is a natural progression, in my eyes . I'm not happy people lost their income, but at the same time I feel that if they had invested in music on a another level than just 'going to work to make someone elses music sound amazing', then this wouldn't have been an issue they would be dealing with . I'd rather dig ditches and write music that fufills my creative side, than twist the knobs the way that the man says I should, so he can tell me where to dig next . Every song I've ever played with direct-intent to follow genre, or format leaves me feeling like a ditch-digger playing it... a three minute ditty turns into a year long death-march ! BUT the ones that make me feel alive while playing... the ones that embue me with the nature of the work(whether I wrote it or someone else)... those songs are the reasons I persist in learning the recording process... I owe them my effort, because on some level they sustain a part of me .

The topic of writing music for reasons other than the most personal, has become a touchy subject with me lately . The labels that employ studios as such are only the head of the beast... and I have been guilty at one time or another of being a hair on it's toe . I am in the process of purging such notes, so bare with me... and please forgive my musical-trespassing... transmutation is seldom a quick thing for me .

Anyway, the bigger they are - the harder they fall... it's karma for calling the place "The Hit Factory" .

(This rant dedicated to the late and great Hunter S. Thompson . Gonzo to the end !)

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Feb 22, 2005 10:29 am

Well, I guess this one hits me on the emotional side as well. There goes that draw to babble about it. Us artists...gad.

It would be truely nice if there was room for everyone, but we (macro sense) don't seem to be able to achieve that.

I saw the graphics industry go through this and we the audio are right on the heels of that progression. There was a degregation of quality in the graphics industry for a while, but everything found it's place and evened out. Obviously the project studio is taking a piece of the market share and does afford a wider variety overall to the consumer. I appreciate the balance the project studio offers to offset the 'factory' mentality of many larger institutions. But I also appreciate the existance of the large well equiped studio even for myself for that time when I need the abilities they offer and don't want to pop for the equipment myself.

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I find it is often hard to decern if I am 'winning' or no in the long run.

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