Feb 01, 2005 09:39 am I'll give it a listen, can you put it up as an MP3 so i can download it and if i think of anything to go over it i'll put it down and post it for you.
Going Solo!
Posted on Feb 01, 2005 09:27 am
Bleak
A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004
Ok, I wrote this little piece today and was just doing a test recording when i came up with this idea.
It's basically an instrumental that i planned to have a lot of solo's on the top.
I'd like YOU to be invloved. I'd like to ideally have a spot for you to inlcude a solo using whatever you play ( guitar, keyboard, harp spoons - whatever)
If i get enough interst i would arrange and record the bed in relation to how many solo's there would be.
A HRC showcase if you will
So who's in?
oh yeah - here's the song
homerecordingconnection.com/m3u.php?id=501
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Feb 01, 2005 09:39 am I'll give it a listen, can you put it up as an MP3 so i can download it and if i think of anything to go over it i'll put it down and post it for you.
Feb 01, 2005 11:19 am What a great idea! I listened to a little snippet on these cheapo iMac speakers, and it sounded really cool! Count me in! I'll throw a sloppy yet well thought-out guitar solo in somewhere.
Thanks for doing this!
Jim
Feb 01, 2005 12:08 pm if ya want a fretless bass solo, i'm in! is there any way i could get an mp3 of the track? i tried clickin' save as, but that didn't work.
peace
wyd
Feb 01, 2005 12:15 pm I'll jam on this when I go home for lunch today and see if I can come up with anything interesting to add.
Feb 01, 2005 04:52 pm I'll see if I can add anything constructive. :)
Dan
Feb 01, 2005 05:09 pm Count me in for a solo/riff
Feb 01, 2005 05:21 pm One question: how long of a solo are you wanting? The whole clip posted, or just part of it?
Feb 01, 2005 06:41 pm i was thinkin' we could all play along to the whole thing and he can edit all the parts together to taste or somethin' like that....
Feb 01, 2005 07:05 pm Wow, this is great guys.
Ok, what i was thinking i would do is compile a list of those who wish to add a solo then re-arrange the sond the accomidate them.
So the solo length will depend on how many people are invloved.
What i will do is wait till Friday and then 'close applications' :)
After arranging the song! i'll post an MP3,tell you were you solo goes and then you shred away.
I will also arrange for a WAV file available for download.
How does that sound?
at the moment we have
Rigsby
guitar jim
whosyourdaddy (no worries with the bass)
Tadpui
olddog
Murphy
Can you guys confirm your in!?
And thanks everyone for your interest in this! should be great!
Here is an Mp3 for those who wish to DL the test bed.
www.users.bigpond.net.au/battler/hanger19.mp3
Feb 01, 2005 07:19 pm Count me innnnn!! Sounds top man...I'll give ya a geetar solo if ye like.
Nice progression, funky - cool with LODSA space for whatever...
Lemme know what u need, part/all, all and ye can cut it - whatever...cool.
Coco.
Feb 01, 2005 07:32 pm Cheers Coco - glad to have you aboard.
Rigsby
guitar jim
whosyourdaddy
Tadpui
olddog
Murphy
Coco
Jason (mate of mine)
Ok thats the list so far. it's getting pretty full.
Feb 01, 2005 07:37 pm Ohhhh, hell yeah !!! If there's any room left count me in Bleak !
GREAT idea !
Feb 01, 2005 07:43 pm Your in Hue!
This is turning into a monster :)
ok - this might have to be the final list
Rigsby *
guitar jim
whosyourdaddy
Tadpui *
olddog *
Murphy
Coco
Jason (mate of mine)
Hue
Can those with an Asterix next to ther name please confirm your a sarter.
Feb 01, 2005 07:58 pm i'm in! dude this is gonna end up beein' a 15 min. jam haha awsome, and really i think most of us just need an mp3 to play along with, and we can send you the .wav files. atleast that's what i'm gonna do.
peace
wyd
Feb 01, 2005 08:05 pm yeh thats cool, i dont mind how its done :)
I'll get started on the arrangement today! Will be ready by the weekend.
By the way, what woud you prefer behind your bass solo?
Feb 01, 2005 08:15 pm umm wow, lemme see.....this is my first time composing a bass solo so i'd say drums (change of beat would be nice, but not necessary) and just a bit of keys or guitar comp. chords, then maybe a few measures of just hi-hats. then back into the rest of the music....not exactly like that but something along those lines would be nice....you make the call, and it is my job to put the finest bass line i can behind it.
§=o)
Feb 01, 2005 08:21 pm no worries WYD
Ok here is the final list (assuming confirmation)
I drew the names out of a hat for the order of play.(i really did)
Guitar Jim
Old Dog
Murphy
Tadpui
WYD (lucky! good spot for a bass solo)
Bleak
Hue
Coco
Rigsby
Jason
Everyone will get 4 Bars each to do their thing!
OK - As soon as i record the arrangemt i'll post the MP3!!! (couple a days) and tell you your time slot.
Get those fingers warmed up!
Feb 01, 2005 08:22 pm my girlfriend thanks you
Feb 01, 2005 08:28 pm She is more than welcome!
I'm not sure for what exactly :)
Feb 01, 2005 10:30 pm I'll definitley take a stab at it. Will probably be this weekend before I can really try anything though. :)
Dan
Feb 01, 2005 11:41 pm It may be a good idea to try to get them tracked in the same order of play... may help things jive from one solo to the next ?...
Then again, brick wall after brick wall could be way cool too !
Feb 01, 2005 11:49 pm well what i was planning to do is just get the WAV file of the solo only (not the bed as well) and then just place it at the exact spot in the Cubase project.
I know it's finicky but ive done it with Solo's and other things before. it does work.
That way we can aceive the best possable quality.
Is everyone ok with that?
Feb 02, 2005 12:21 am Bleak...check your email. Nice groove, by the way!
Feb 02, 2005 12:25 am Yeah, that's cool . ( I was just thinking outloud . ) Although, I've never sent a WAV anywhere... how's one go about it ... Anyone ?
Feb 02, 2005 01:00 am Hue, when it comes time for you to send your WAV i'll walk you through it! i'll get you to FTP it to a server so i can grab it from there.
Infact all of you can do the same if you wish.
An account will be setup for all of you to upload your bits.
I'm working on the bed tonight and with a few coffee's i might even nail it by tomorrow!.
I can't believe the response to this, thanks again to everyone. im quite excited by the whole thing.
Thermo, Got your email! that this awsome and definately going to be included! we have harp!!!
I'll let you know if i can work that in with the new version when its done or if i'll need you to re-record.
Are there any takers to do the final Master when its ready?
Feb 02, 2005 01:17 am WAV... Yay !
Harp... Yay !
Ya-yay-ya-yay !
Feb 02, 2005 07:42 am No...Bleak - thank YOU!!!
I tell ye, to offer ANY musician a nice blank canvas on which to cut lose is awesome...and to a geetarist (like many of us) its...well, its heaven man!!!
Top idea. I'll pitch in with ma 4 bars whenever ye like - but certainly by the end of the weekend when I get myself up the studio.
Nice idea bud.
Coco.
P.S. If yer still comin over, hook yerself over here for a beer in the mighty Edinburger....
Feb 02, 2005 08:59 am Cheers Coco, but i must admit i have lead you ALL astray! it's going to be 8 bars each!!! :)
I've done the drums and am now doing the Bass.I tell ya, if your not a bass player just try doing it for 6 minutes!!! my left arm is dead!!!
As you may have guessed the song is over 6 minutes long! (pushing 7)
I should have the bed ready for you all by Sunday.
Coco - We are looking to get there in June and we shall visit you for more than one beer :) I know your a hibs man :) but i can introduce you to some of the livingston lads if you like?
Feb 02, 2005 09:50 am Just had a play along and that was fun, so i'm confirming too.
You guys know i play glockenspiel though right?
Feb 02, 2005 08:33 pm Bleak,
Again, I must say that this is an awesome idea! Eight bars is perfect. Can't wait to get started on it. And it looks like I'll be the opening act for the rest of you...now the pressure's on!
Thanks again!
Jim
Feb 03, 2005 09:50 am ok, good news everyone, The song will be ready tomorrow! depsite my hangover i've toiled all day!!!
Nothing beets copious amounts of redbull, coffee and vitamin B.
I've been having some very strong arguments with the stupid little red clip light in Cubase! Stupid thing's going spastic even though everything is quite low and never exceeding yellow!
Any way it sounds fine.
Feb 03, 2005 09:01 pm OK, here it is. I have had to speed it up a notch to try and make it an acceptable length :)
I will obviously re-mix after I receive everything so don’t be too concerned about how it sounds (though feel free to make suggestions)
The following are your respective Start and end times for your solo’s (in Min/Sec)
Guitar Jim 59–1:18
Olddog 1:27-1:46
Murphy 2:06-2:24
Tadpui 2:34-2:53
Wyd 3:13-3:31 (if you want you backing changed let me know)
Bleak 3:41-4:00
Hue 4:19-4:39
Coco 4:48-5:07
Rigsby 5:26-5:46
Jason 5:55-6:14
Thermo – you pretty much have free reign so just do your harp where ever you want over the whole song and I’ll edit in/out.
Now, due to the nature of Solo’s you don’t have to adhere preciously to the above times, it’s more of guideline to your ‘section’ of the tune.
If anyone would prefer the location of a WAV file (50MB) let me know.
When your ready to send the WAV or MP3 of your solo just let me know. I only want the solo back not with the tune. (It thinks that’s the best way – open to ideas though)
Are their any questions?
www.users.bigpond.net.au/battler/hanger19.mp3
It is 6min 54 sec at 100 BPM
Feb 04, 2005 06:59 am BRING IT ON Bleak ma man!!! Aye - this is cool...
Some Geeeeeetar coming at ya by the end of this weekend I hopes...I'll maybe knock ye up 2 parts and let ye pick cause ye dont have enuff already :-p hehehe..just kiddin. 1 part coming at ya.
Coco.
Feb 04, 2005 09:04 am Do we need a wav? would mp3 not do the same job for us? does compression change a timeline at all? obviously we send a wav file back to you.
*UPDATE*
Sorry, didn't read it right, you have an mp3 as well.
Feb 04, 2005 09:15 am Murphy, does your update mean your cool?
Feb 04, 2005 09:23 am Coco - i'm stinging to get your solo! i can't wait to get this bad boy mixed up and posted!
Feb 04, 2005 09:39 am I'll get mine done monday if that's cool, and i'll post the wav tuesday.
Feb 04, 2005 09:42 am Do you want a 16 or 24 bit wav? I tend to record in 32/44.1, what would you like? Mine'll be mono if that's okay.
Feb 04, 2005 09:42 am 32? jeezuz...what good is 32 bits at 44.1 sample? seems like an odd standard...and what sound card do you use for 32 bit?!
Feb 04, 2005 09:47 am No worries Rigsby! When your done let me know how you want to get it to me.
Feb 04, 2005 09:52 am I just saw the new posts! um ... i dont understand what any of that means but i do know that Mono is cool!
Just know that file size wont be a problem. You all have an account to a server to upload if you need it.
Feb 04, 2005 09:56 am And DB, you blaspheme a lot for a devout Christian!
Just quietly
Feb 04, 2005 10:00 am Cool beans bleak, let me know about the bit depth will you, and can you let me know where the wav is as soon as you can as i'm off to the library soon for some faster downloading and i'd like to get it then, i'm dial-up here.
dB, i can't record any higher than 44.1, when i switched to 24 bit from 16 i noticed the difference and figured the maths works better at 32, perhaps i'm wrong, either way i'm happy with the sound. I've not A/B'd the difference between 24 and 32 with this set-up. Don't know the soundcard without cracking open the mac, the whole thing was a gift from someone who upgraded, lovely gift, hours of joy.
Feb 04, 2005 10:03 am you can't go past 44 but it'll do 32 bit?!?! thats weird...I am guessing regardless of the software setting, the sound card, if limited to 44.1 is also limited to 16 bit, though your software says 32 bit, it';s a 32-bit file of a 16-bit a/d conversion.
Feb 04, 2005 10:03 am No problem bleak, i'll dither to 16bit, that's probably the safest option.
Let me know where the wav is yeah?
Feb 04, 2005 10:09 am So why do i hear a clear difference at 24bit? It'll also export and import at 48kHz and 96kHz. Maybe i just don't know how to change the sample rate, i'm using VST and the guide i bought when i got it doesn't explain how to change it, just says that usual recording in VST is 16-32bit, 44.1kHz. So do i need to change it on the card not the program?
Confused. Help my dB one kenobi, you're my only hope.
Feb 04, 2005 10:10 am The WAV will be there in 15 minutes! As soon as it's up i'll post the URL.
Feb 04, 2005 10:13 am Quote:
So why do i hear a clear difference at 24bit?
hmmm, yeah, that is a good point now, ain't it...my surprised reaction is only because it's odd to have a 24-bit card (or higher) limited to a 44.1 sample rate, it's an odd standard, typically 24-bits go to 96 or higher sample rates and 32 bit, I dunno, never messed with it, as even high-resolution audio isn't that high today...
However, I never have and never will claim proficiency with a mac either, so who knows.
Feb 04, 2005 10:19 am Thanks Bleak.
So dB, i need to look at the card then yes? If it's not to be found in VST then i'll start looking again, just got sick of getting nowhere with it.
Feb 04, 2005 10:22 am well, it's helpful to know what it is, however, I didn't want to take this thread so far off track...
If it's an integrated sound card, odds are you could look it up on apple.com somehow...I would think...
Feb 04, 2005 10:34 am The guy that gave it to me swapped it out i believe, but thanks for the help, i'll investigate the card for sample rate alterations and let the thread return to it's roots too now.
Feb 04, 2005 10:37 am Rigsby, The server is down so i can't upload ATM.
It will definately be there tomorrow.
Feb 04, 2005 10:38 am Rar'd up it's 67 MB by the way
Feb 04, 2005 10:43 am That's a shame, but i'll wait for it, easier to line-up than an MP3, just as i don't have conversion software and VST won't take an MP3. I might not be able to get it til monday though, which means you may not have my wav til weds, is that cool?
67MB sounds about right, at 16 bit it's usually about 10mb a minute for a stereo wav.
Feb 04, 2005 10:45 am Actually, i might get to the library tomorrow, so if you post the wav address when it's up that'd be great.
Feb 04, 2005 10:57 am No wuckers!
Well that was at 24 bit. I just did it at 16 and it's now (compressed) 49 MB.
And Wednesday is cool.
Feb 04, 2005 11:21 am Wuckers eh? Not sure what that means, but if you're using 24 bit i'll send you that.
Feb 04, 2005 11:28 am Honestly Rigsby it doesnt matter how many bungerhurtz your WAV is! i'll manage!
And wuckers is short for "no wucking forries"
:)
Feb 04, 2005 11:50 am i hope your having a laugh too :)
Feb 04, 2005 12:23 pm Someone please educate me...why would we need anything other than an .mp3 file? We're just using it for a guide track to cut our solos. And if there is a reason, then shouldn't we all be using the same file format as a guide?
I get the part about us uploading our solos as a wav, but I don't get why some oare downloading the whole thing as a wav.
Like I said...please educate me!
Jim
Feb 04, 2005 12:30 pm No one needs it as a wav really! but i did offer it for anyone that wanted a better quality sound to work from!
Tell you what GJ, pressure's on! first solo! :)
Feb 04, 2005 12:30 pm i agree accually with jim, i think it's a bit much to d/l the whole wav file...playin' along with the mp3 should be fine...i'm restringin' my bass and gonna hafta get my chops back up...wow it's amazing how much my skills have gone down since i dropped the bass (pun intended) and picked up the mixer....it's been atleast 3 months since it's been outta the case!
§=o)
Feb 04, 2005 12:34 pm oh NOW you mention that:) i changed the beat and everything for your bit.
I'm sure you will nail it! :) specially with those new strings and all
Feb 04, 2005 12:37 pm Yeah, i'm good too Bleak, that's a Jim Carrey quote i think.
So how are you guys lining this up to record along to? Do you have conversion software? Usually i have to play the MP3, record it to DAT and play that back out into VST, kind of time consuming. What are you guys doing?
Feb 04, 2005 01:05 pm i'm loadin the file (mp3 or wav) into a stereo track in sonar, gonna record my bit, and exporting just my bass track as .wav
Feb 04, 2005 02:09 pm So sonar lets you import MP3s then? That's pretty cool, VST won't let me. Boo. I've got the MP3, i'll probably do it with that via the DAT route.
Feb 04, 2005 02:31 pm accually, i'm not sure to be honest, i've never tried, but i can easily convert it in wavelab if i need to.
Feb 04, 2005 07:04 pm *Quote* Murphy, does your update mean your cool?
Yeah.
Feb 05, 2005 03:33 pm Cool...the solo will be nailed tonight.
Nae worries...
Hey Jim, nope, there is no reason to work from a guide track using anything other than a decent quality MP3 (of 128MBPS will be fine or better) - it just dotn matter. The final solo will be exported as a wav anyway so tis only a guide track for playback. You'd only have issues if the MP3 was real lo-fi which its not.
Anyways..am off to record it now...break oot the Les Paul, Marshall, VAMP and ma beer....Cmooonnnn!
Coco.
Feb 05, 2005 06:41 pm Can't wait to hear it Coco!!
I've just polished off a couple bottles of Leinie's Big Butt Double Bock, and a twenty-second guitar solo.
Bleak, you can download my contribution here:
www.thecutaways.us/Hanger19-Guitar_Jim.wav
If you insert it at 0:54.354 it should match up exactly with the time frame that you so generously gave me!
Thanks again for doing this, I can't wait to hear the final result! If you have any questions or problems with my file, let me know!
Jim
Feb 05, 2005 08:29 pm GJ, It's in!!! The file was fine, no worries at all getting it in. Sounds great :)!!
By the way, if anyone has any ideas for the name of the song let me know.
At the moment I’ve nicknamed it Hanger 19 which is because there is a megadeth song called hanger 18 that is ostensively built around Solo’s.
Keep em coming lads!
Feb 06, 2005 11:43 am Hanger 19 ! lol
I'll have my piece in by Monday night... hope this is cool .
Ahh...
Do you wants it dry, or the way I hear it ?
Feb 06, 2005 11:59 am I think i would prefer it dry or dryish!
I Don't really know to be honest but i get the feeling that effects and such would be better off done in the final mix.
But if that's not the case then i dont really mind.
looking forward to hearing it!
Already have guitar Jim's, i'm itchig to hear all the solo's in the mix. will be awsome
How's everyone else travelling?
Feb 06, 2005 05:38 pm Mine'll be done Monday night, should be with you by tuesday sometime.
Feb 06, 2005 08:17 pm Im gonna try and do mine tommorow..went up the studio tonight and woke up the kids! DOHHH!
So, no recording tonight for sure!
Tommorow, hopefully, it'll be done. I now know what Im recording so thats half the battle...cans it may be tommorow. Still, it beats not doing it at all!
Cheers
Coco
Feb 06, 2005 08:33 pm Tomorrow's cool Coco. becuase remember "Oor Coco! Your Coco! A'body's Coco" :)
GJ's solo is getting lonely everyone :)
I'm gunna have to work out time differences for everyone (more out of general insterest).
Feb 06, 2005 10:57 pm glad i hopped by, I'll do mine now while I'm thinking about it.
Feb 06, 2005 11:18 pm Excellent work Tadpui, let mw know when your done and i'll bung it in!
That should be 4 done by today - GL,Bleak,Jason (gill bates) and Tadpuui.
6 to go
Feb 07, 2005 12:01 am sorry man i didnt get a keeper track out of recording tonight (that whole super bowl-related intoxication you know).
unfortunately, my temporary install of windows is on its last day before it makes me activate it after installing it. i won't be able to record again until my missing piece comes for my other computer, which will be a week or so.
Feb 07, 2005 12:16 am Well the Super Bowl in Australia is about as important as the England v Australia Ashes series is to you lot. :)
Anyway, cool.
Till next week ….
Feb 07, 2005 12:25 am Allrighty then, I've been getting nagged bigtime by Bleak to come and say g'day to you all here, so HI EVERYONE... I'm a total newby at home computer recording so i look forward to taking up a lot of your precious time here with my stupid newbie questions :) (just ask bleak, he gets em all the time). been playing guitar for about 18yrs and in the i.t industry for work so hopefully wont be a drain on you guys for too long. looking forward to seeing how this project turns out, kinda reminds me of that "hear'n'aid" thing all the metal guitarists produced yrs ago for africa and i'm sure if there were any proceeds from this, bleak would be more than happy to donate them to a worthy cause. anyhoo, should have my lead in by tonight.
cheers
J
Feb 07, 2005 02:33 am Are you russian hue?
Feb 07, 2005 07:14 am ok here tis bleak (ftp'd up). hope u guys have as much fun hearing this as i did creating it... can't wait to hear the rest of u guys. let's do these more often :)
J
Feb 07, 2005 07:34 am Hey Bleak
I like the ref to Oor Wullie, ye canny whack him for sure!! Top comic strip that is...
Aye - tonight I'll dander on up and record the darn thing. I had it pegged last night but if I'd only used the cans, it'd have been done by now!
Never mind...I nail it tonight...
Cheers
Coco
Feb 07, 2005 07:39 am Good man Coco! looking forward to it!
And cheers Gill. Donwloaded and mixed in! Awsome work my friend!
Only 7 to go people !!! Let's get amoungst it eh!
Feb 07, 2005 11:20 am i'm charting out the progression today, and will track mine tonight....it's been a long week(end) and the flu has shut down the whole county (literally) but yeah, 24 hours from now, you should have my track.
peace
wyd
Feb 07, 2005 02:30 pm OK my computer didn't turn back into a pumpkin today, so I tracked my solo today at lunch.
www.aarvid.com/tadpui/Waver%202_40.wav
there's some silence at the front, so if you line it up at 2:30 it should be OK. Feel free to fade out the ending to blend it in.
After listening to this back at work, I see that the mic picked up the closet door handle vibrating and I can hear it all the way through the track as a fuzzy sound on a lot of the notes. If I get time I'll redo it, but use this one in case I don't. Let me know if you need any modifications.
Feb 07, 2005 03:17 pm Here's mine too bleak, i couldn't convert the backing track file to wav so i recorded it to MD and played it into the mac, lined it up as best i could by ear and by wave and this should start at bar 129.3.1, just in case you have any troubles i made an MP3 of the same thing with the backing. Hope it fits okay...
www.rigsbysmith.net/hiddensounds/glock4bleak.wav
www.rigsbysmith.net/hiddensounds/19withglock.mp3
...i know you wanted all of our stuff pretty sharpish and i've got a lot on right now so it's just a 57 with my smaller glock sat on my desk (the larger one has a stand, but not this one), no padding underneath so there's some hit sound coming back from the tabletop but it sounds fine and dandy within the track as far as i could tell.
Jeez...don't i waffle on sometimes?
Feb 07, 2005 03:26 pm Hey Rigsby, there' an app called FreeRip that's a freeware utility that rips CD audio into .wav, .mp3 and .aiff files. The cool thing is that it also converts files between those 3 formats. It's handy, and its free!
Feb 07, 2005 04:35 pm I nominate Tadpui as the official freeware god. Tad, your newfound passion for above the line computing practices has made you an expert in the field.
Keep 'em comin'...they're all good!
Jim
Feb 07, 2005 06:56 pm OK...here we go:
I have done 2 versions as I wisny shure which one I liked best. Alas, 2 is probably better but 1 has more feel...dunno, I leave it to you Bleak - take yer pick. I done ye the solo by itself and a version pitche in with the backing track so ye can hear how it should sound...
Links:
Solo 1: www.badmartini.co.uk/CocoHangar19SoloVersion1.wav
Solo 1 With Backing: www.badmartini.co.uk/Coco...lipVersion1.wav
Solo 2: www.badmartini.co.uk/CocoHangar19SoloVersion2.wav
Solo 2 With Backing: www.badmartini.co.uk/Coco...lipVersion2.wav
They BOTH go in at exactly 4mins 48secs and 23 i.e. 4.48.23 ...
If ye dont like/want changed you just let me know.
Oh aye, final point - I missed the whole "record it dry" bit Im affraid so its been "Cocoised"..sorry bud..if ye are after a new one, I can do it - ye let me know and it'll be done.
Cheers bud
Coco.
Feb 07, 2005 10:20 pm Looks like i get the coverted 100 posts post :)
They are all great! really good work
Thanks everyone. All those submitted are just about done, though i must say rigsby i thought you were joking about the glock :) sounds great though (but difficult to mix).
ok, waiting on
Old dog
Murphy
WYD
Thermo
any update lads?
Feb 07, 2005 10:58 pm My gosh, I can't beleive I overlooked this thread! Am I too late for dibs?
Rigsby, that glockenspeil sounds hot! Very unique if I do say so myself.
I know is would be hard/impossible to do without face-to-face interaction, but it would be kind of neat if we came up with a solid, straight foward melody and we all harmonized with it. Maybe towards the end or something. Jeesh that would be sick sounding!
Feb 07, 2005 11:16 pm Mike,
You might be struggling. The song has been arranged and recorded for 10 Solo's.
Sorry dude, maybe record one anyway and if someone drops out i'll bung it in.
Feb 07, 2005 11:28 pm No probs, Bleak. I knew I was a bit late to get in so no need for apologies ;-)
It is a very cool (and very open) set of nude vamps you arranged there. I may still play around abit just to for the sake of jammin' but I probably won't post it unless it's requested.
Feb 08, 2005 12:01 am Cheers Mike, glad you like it. it was only ever meant as a test track! turned into a monster :)
Feb 08, 2005 12:17 am Especially the 'dorian'ish parts have a big groove factor. What did you use for the organ sounds?
Feb 08, 2005 12:20 am Native Instruments B4! Can't go past that for an awsome organ sound!
Feb 08, 2005 12:25 am My guess was gonna be a genuine B3 (as if I had the luxury of ever being in it's presence!) Sounds damn real to me, good pick.
Feb 08, 2005 12:28 am The good folk at Native Instruments are doing something right!
Feb 08, 2005 03:37 am If I can't get something nailed by tomorow night (tuesday) give Mike my spot. I was gonna do it tonight and fell asleep on the dang couch watching TV. LOL
Dan
Feb 08, 2005 06:22 am Thanks Mike, very kind. Wondering how a glock fits into all of this, is everyone else doing guitars except for 'daddy and I?
Feb 08, 2005 07:41 am I've done a piano solo and Thermo is doing some harp.
oh and ive test driven the glock with some mates and they love it!
Feb 08, 2005 04:11 pm ok i've got my 24 bit .wav ready to upload, i forget the time it's supposed to come in but it's in the name of the file. 3:12 i think...anywho, where do i upload this mug? i'm gonna reread the thread and check it's been posted already.......
Feb 08, 2005 04:17 pm ummm i know this has been covered a thousand times, but where could/should i upload this to? if ya wanna get on a messenger or something like that, i could. lemme know what to do boss.
§=o)
Feb 08, 2005 05:48 pm WYD- If it's a small enough file, you can attach it to an e-mail... that's what I did, anyway .
Feb 08, 2005 06:08 pm sweet! Bleak you've got mail
Feb 08, 2005 07:03 pm How do you like Hue's effort! Last week he didnt what to do with a WAV now his giving out advice!!! Nicely done :)
WYD - recieved! sounds great, it really breaks the song up nicley. i really like it.
3 to go
Old Dog
Murphy
Thermo
I cant wait for you all to hear this! the different types of solo's sound terrific.
Feb 08, 2005 07:19 pm Apologies Bleak me old mucka..
Just realised I'd made this avialble for d/l instead of uploading/emailing it to ye.
Still, I presumes ye have it now? so all good (my bad all the same).
Nice one and I canny WAIT to hear this...cool.
Cheers
Coco.
Feb 08, 2005 07:26 pm Coco, its all good mate! There was (EDIT-) NO 'way' to get it to me. a link was fine. i went with solo number 2 by the way!
I've just been listening to the mix over and over - The balance of solo's (different types) is perfect. you guys are gunna love it
Feb 08, 2005 07:29 pm Yes ! Yes ! I can't wait to hear the diversity of this... s'got to be mint !
Thanks Bleak, but I'm still fumbling on the advice tip... I still 'think' I know, only what I know... as it seems . Alot of that I owe to this site, and the patient people on it . I do like to think I can offer a 'lil 'something' but really, I pretty much had to be dragged into computer-based recording, and now I can't imagine why I was hessitant... so, I'm still blind to many of it's facets .
Glad it worked wyd... one step closer ! wOOt !
Feb 08, 2005 08:44 pm I'll be up all night watching England v Netherlands then Australia v South africa (soccer). So if i get the other solo's in that time you should all have the Song by tomorrow!!
Feb 09, 2005 05:02 am Almost done, I just have to work on the timing a bit. Should have it finished for sure tomorrow night. For what I came up with I'm just a hair off of being able to get a good take, so gotta play it some more till I can nail it. :)
Dan
Feb 09, 2005 06:01 am Cool OD! cheers for the update :)
Murphy
Thermocaster
Are you guys still in?
Feb 09, 2005 12:24 pm Yeah, I'll get cracking tonight
Feb 10, 2005 03:46 am Okay here's mine. There are 2 different takes use the one you feel is best. :) Should line up at 1:22.377
www.smokinhq.com/collabor...od_alt_solo.wav
www.smokinhq.com/collaborate/hanger19-od_solo.wav
upload is going kinda slow so it will be a bit before they are ready.
Dan
Feb 10, 2005 08:39 am OD, i'm downloading now! i dont know where smokinghq is, (server wise) but i'm sucking these down at 160 KB/S!
Feb 10, 2005 09:38 am Ok, OD. Mixed in! They are both great!!!, but i've gone with solo number 2!
1 to go - Murphy your under the pump! :)
Feb 10, 2005 10:15 am i'll say it again! - You guys have really created something very special! you'll see what i mean!
Feb 11, 2005 01:57 pm Ok, mine is done.
Been very busy so it's not great.
As I'm the last, I've kept the silence so you can just slot it straight in, hope that's ok?
Feb 11, 2005 02:01 pm word up! i hope you fattened up my bass, it was tracked direct with no effects at all....i need compression! and an amp sim would be nice too.
Feb 11, 2005 02:26 pm Sh** Was it with no effects? I should learn to read!
Feb 11, 2005 06:27 pm Murphy i can deal with the effects.
um.... Where is it?
oh and as long as you give me the time where it slots in it will be cool.
WYD - i have fattened it up some and, as requested, added some moddeling!
I will post the final mix tonight upon taking receipt of Murphy's Solo.
From there you guys can tell me if i've buggered you solo or not and i'll change it accordingly.
I know your all getting anxious to hear this so i'll do the final mix tonight regardless.
Thermocaster - you have till then to get the harp down!
Feb 12, 2005 03:23 am I e-mailed it to ya
2-05-457 is where it's cut, (as file name)
Feb 12, 2005 03:38 am Sorry, returned mail as it's to0oOoO big.
Sent it again.
Feb 12, 2005 03:49 am Just recieved it!!! cheers Murphy
OK as soon as i mix it in i'll do a final mix and post this puppy!
Feb 12, 2005 03:56 am Murphy,
Good job with the solo mate, but there is a MAJOR drop in volume about just after half way. sounds like its been heavily phased maybe?
I can try and fix it from here if you like but were you expecting that to be there?
Feb 12, 2005 04:15 am Yeah but I over phased it.
Try your best, if not I'll do another.
Feb 12, 2005 04:21 am well it gets to a point where the volume drops completely leaving a small gap. (it doesnt sound deliberate)
I'll use it anyway and when i release the mix you can decide to change it or not. I've no doubt others will want changes made to their solo's (mixing wise) so you will have to time for aother if you need it!
apart from that bit it sounds great!
Feb 12, 2005 05:25 am Hey Bleak
Try normalising the bit where it goes quieter - just highlight this section and normalise a few db...might be all it needs.
Cheers
Coco
Feb 12, 2005 06:01 am Cheers Coco, but i just this second finshed the master :)
No matter, beucase .....
Everyone, It's finally done! What i have done at this point is mixed it to the best of my ability.
So here's what happens next.
1 - you listen to it and pick out all the things i need to do to improve the mix
2 - I do as instructed and re-post
3 - You agree how clever i am at mixing and that it's now perfect.
4 - i post in a new thread so those that are'nt following this one can check it out too
That cool?
OK, 2 versions (both the same - different bit rates for those with slower connections)
www.farcanal.info/hanger19_128.mp3 (6.5 MB)
www.farcanal.info/hanger19_49.mp3 (2.5 MB)
Ok, Back to you
In order the solo's are
Guitar Jim - Guitar
Old Dog - Guitar
Murphy - Guitar
Tadpui - Guitar
WYD - Bass
Bleak - Piano
Hue - Slide Guitar
Coco - Guitar
Rigsby - Glock
Jason - Guitar
Feb 12, 2005 07:06 am Oh, and I’d like to thank Gill bates for the use of his server and also the psychiatric evaluation board for endorsing his involvement in the weekend release program for him to get his Solo down.
Feb 12, 2005 08:03 am Hey Bleak, lots of work in there, and a good mix. My glock is definately a little off time-wise, i think it's a little behind and the effect and/or EQ on it makes it sound a little thin IMO, what did you put on it? Hard to tell about the sound exactly as i downloaded the quicky version, but does sound a little on the thin side. Nice touch at the end, cuts off a little suddenly though, might be nice to have the glock repeat a couple more times and fade it out so it's more gradual to end. Overall, good work though.
Feb 12, 2005 08:32 am Bleak,
WOW!! Everything I had thought it would be and MORE! You have done an incredible job putting this thing together...the organization, the arrangement, and the MIX! My kids didn't believe that this was a bunch of HRC-ers just jamming (which is, of course, the ultimate compliment!)
You fellas are some top-notch players and I am humbled to be sharing your seven minutes of fame.
Thanks, Bleak, for putting this project together, it has been a lot of fun!
Jim
Feb 12, 2005 08:44 am Rigsby - i just eq'd yours to make it brighter but i'll back it off and adjust the timing.
Basically i'm taking notes on everyone's comments to fix it up :)
GJ - Well i would have to thankyou and everyone for participating in this. it's been heaps of fun putting it together.
I'm the one who is humbled to have you all involved!
Feb 12, 2005 08:52 am Aha, that'll be it then bleak. Thing is i play with hard rubber xylophone beaters rather than wood or plastic ones to mute the sound slightly and bring out a warmer resonance, much prefer the sound, so taking out the brightening will be great thanks. I could apologise for being picky but hell, that's just the way i am :)
Feb 12, 2005 08:55 am The mp3 i put up with the wav'll help line up the glock a bit i think, i should've waited for the wav really so it would've lined up more easily. Hey ho..
Good job on getting it as close as it is.
Feb 12, 2005 09:49 am No worries at all Rigsby! If i dont get the timing right right when i re-post after everyone's comments i'll send your bit by itself till i nail it!
and being picky is more than cool :)
Feb 12, 2005 09:52 am Sounds very cool to me Bleak - darn good mix and with all these different folks, using differetn gear, wavs etc - good stuff.
Did you do anything to my solo??? It sounds a bit better than I remember - did ye EQ it maybe??
Either way, delighted with what ye done..sounds excellent bud.
Coco
Feb 12, 2005 10:04 am Cheers Coco,
Actually after some mucking around with yours i ended up leaving it as is. I used Ozone to master the whole thing so perhaps it has tweaked it a bit. Infact yours is the only one i didn't touch - yours and murphy's had the most effects already in the file.
and yes, using all the different types of everything (wav, effects, gear and so on) did prove challenging but SO worth it.
And the different styles and sounds really makes this thing unique!
Feb 12, 2005 10:05 am Sounds good to me! Good job man.
Feb 12, 2005 12:33 pm yeah i'm diggin' it....if ya can get rid of some of the reverb on mine, it'd be nice, but if it's the verb that's on the whole song or whatever, don't worry about it.....this is way cool.
Feb 12, 2005 04:19 pm Hey guys, this sounds great. I am thinking I might like to add this to the compilation CD. It could be the final track to show the collaboration of the members as a whole.
This is really funky if I may say so. Kinda like Booker-T meets the 2000's head on. And guys, I gotta say those guitar chops is really funky. I was skeptical when I first read what you guys were up to. But I am now a believer for sure.
And I am truly lovin that B4 organ goin on in there. The fretless solo really gets it as well.
Feb 12, 2005 04:27 pm thanks Noize, yeah i was feelin' the B4 myself, i was also curious to the main songs bass line, did you play that yourself bleak? it sounds like a loop but i'm not sure, i tried playin' it and i couldn't keep up after about 30 seconds! haha anywho, i'm out
peace
Feb 12, 2005 05:36 pm Yep this really turned out great. Alot of different sounds and sytles.
Mix sounds good to me.
Dan
Feb 12, 2005 06:04 pm Did anyone use a REAL amp??? I didnt! VAMP all the way...
Wonder if we could trick anyone into saying "aye, recorded using Marshall stacks and Twin Reverbs with TUbe Screamers etc!!"...hehehe.
Very cool I agree..also Noize, for the CD - FOR SURE!
Coco
Feb 12, 2005 06:23 pm WYD - noted! Ozone does add a fair bit of Reverb but it doesnt help if the track has it as well :) i'll back it off. And NO, it's most definately not a loop, i have the blisters and twisted wrist to prove it :)
Noize - glad you liked it and i'm sure everyone is stoked about your consideration of including this on the CD!!!
Tell me though, What were you skeptical about in the begining? (just out of interst)
Glad you all are happey with the mix so far!!! must have got lucky :)
Feb 12, 2005 06:26 pm wow props to yer bass playin' man! it's a slammin' line fer sher!
Feb 13, 2005 01:11 am I've listened quite a few times now to the mix and I think mine might need to be a bit louder. Not much, it just sounds a little low compared to the rest probably because mine doesn't have as much treble to it. Then again it does help hide my timing error. LOL
Dan
Feb 13, 2005 01:13 am Sorry to hijack, but just saw noize on this thread, so speaking of the save the music thing... noize did you get my e-mail re:the cover, i've not heard back, you're a hard man to track down right now.
Feb 13, 2005 02:05 am You’re quite right, it is a bit low. In the next mix it'll be up!
And i cant hear your timing error! sounds great!
Feb 13, 2005 02:36 am You can! does the link not work?
www.farcanal.info/hanger19_128.mp3 (6.5 MB)
www.farcanal.info/hanger19_49.mp3 (2.5 MB)
Feb 13, 2005 02:39 am nope not for me...is it realplayer,quick time?something else?my pc may need a reboot or something sometimes its wierd with streaming audio....
Feb 13, 2005 02:43 am It's not streaming! can you right click and "save as" ?
Feb 13, 2005 02:44 am It's just an MP3 - Media player will play it
Feb 13, 2005 03:40 am yeah I had to rightclick and I listened too your guy's song,and all I can say is WOW great job. Seriously you guys rock!!!! It's amazing how you did this all from all over the globe it just came together so well,good chemistry.You guys are all very talanted and I really enjoyed your song (I listened to it quite a few times)Man great job,lol
peace&love - Renegade
(oh yeah and ending it with the glockinspiel was a great touch)
Feb 13, 2005 04:59 am Thanks for the kind words Renegade.
It is something special when people from across the world do somethig like this together.
It's like we could all meet up tomorrow for a beer!
Wish we could :)
What do you reckon guys? my place? 8 pm ?
And Renegade! your invited!
Feb 13, 2005 06:07 am Bleak, that wis a bad move.
A Scotsman can smell a beer from 1000000000000000000000000 miles, so I just might be catchin a plane, takin a 20hr flight at a cost of £700 just for a free beer!! hehehehehe...
Nah, tis awesome for sure and an achievement. Well done Bleak me mucker...whilst on the beer subject, let me know when in June yer over and if Im around, I'll meet ye in edinburgh for a beer.
Cheers
Coco.
Feb 13, 2005 06:12 am If your around my arse!
You'll be there for a beer and you will like it :)
Where about's in the Burger are you from? (Kerri asked)
Feb 13, 2005 06:32 am The prestigious area known as Craigour....next to the brand new Royal Infirmary!
I say "if" as I am offski on hols for a week in June to Espania...much as I'd love to have beers in the Buger wi yi, I love the all inclusive, sunshine paid beers more !! :-) !!
Coco
Feb 13, 2005 08:38 am Well i can't compete with a free sun-shiney beer :)
None the less we shall be there in July! So given that it's off season i'd better educate you in Cricket!
Might even drag you and the fam down to a test match (it’s ok, There’s beer)
We can take Old Dalekeith Road if you like :)
Feb 13, 2005 02:37 pm Well done Bleak. Sounds great.
I see what you mean about my phasing! OOOPS!!
I was way behind in gettin something ready so I didn't use any mixer, just straight into the soundcard via korg AX1000G but still a spot on mix.
Feb 13, 2005 10:29 pm You're the man Bleak, this is truly bad to the bone ! Can't say anything about the mix that hasn't been said already... love the fadout with Rigbys gloc, and what you did to the slide piece for it... very cool of you man .
As for the rest of those involved...
You guys RAIL !... All of y'all ! I am all warm and fuzzy over this one ! heh Much love !... Feel the LOVE ! 8 )
Feb 14, 2005 07:53 pm Cheers guys :)
Ok, if there is no-one else i i'll make the changes and re-post today. ?!?
Feb 15, 2005 05:29 am Guys,
I have just seen that the 'test bed' for Hanger 19' made the charts!!!
As such i have uploaded the lower frequency MP3 of the current mix, in it's place
I could'nt upload the better version as i got an 'incorrect file type' error. I may have run out of space. But i'll delete my other songs if need be.
Excellent works again guys!!!
Feb 15, 2005 12:39 pm yeah my bass dosn't really have alotta punch the way a fender does, it's a pain in the arse to mix expecially when all you have is a dry naked track (my bad) i've had issues with this before...anyway i'm content with everything....
Feb 15, 2005 06:02 pm Thats cool - i thik it sounds fine.but i'll certainly bring it up a bit.
Feb 22, 2005 10:34 pm Bleak, did you ever get to a final version of the track yet? I would like this one for the compilation disc.
Feb 22, 2005 10:41 pm Hey Noize,
Yeh it's ready, I'll do another pre-master without Ozone or Har-bal and post the address to a WAV for you - Is that the best way for you?
If so, whats the maximum file size you can bare to download?
Feb 22, 2005 11:18 pm Noize, i just found out that the server i use will be down from Sunday on, so we will have to do the transfer before that if thats cool.
Feb 24, 2005 08:46 am Noize,
The server i have been using is down for an indefinate period!
The file i have for you is 60 MB (rar). Is there any servers/locations that you know of where i can upload this file for you?
Mar 12, 2005 11:40 am Noize?
Did you still want this track?
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