TOOL ('nuff said)

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Member Since: Apr 30, 2002

hey people...
i was listening to aenema, (one of the band TOOL's albums, for the uninitiated), and was thinking about the use stereo in the recordings. its my favourite album ever, and i was without it for like a year and i just got it back recently and listened to it with my AKG's and realized there was much more to it.
back to my point...for alot of the time, the guitar is center in the mix, with the bass and the bass drum. it's weird, cuz normally people pan the guitar tracks or double them. and i realized they made up for the possible lack of 'stereo' by having danny's huge drumset panned all the way around your head. then, when a song gets REALLY heavy, bam! the guitar track is doubled. i thought it was an interesting way of doing things. i normally don't like the guitar dead center cuz it ends up sounding a little weak, but in this case it actually adds alot of depth.
for those tool fans, check out 46 and 2 cuz its a perfect example. listen to the first chorus (the guitar is dead center) then there's a slight rest and the verse comes in, but the guitar is doubled. its a good use of stereo imaging, i would say, in a very basic way.
later y'all

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Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


May 05, 2002 10:46 pm

Yeah I've noticed that too, and I've picked up that technique a while back, of using the guitar track twice, panned differently. It really can add depth to the music. Same thing with the drum tracks, if you have the bass drum panned center with the toms each hard left or right or something, depending on what sound you're wanting to get. One of my favourite little things to do is to start with something panned hard to one side and sweep it to the other.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 05, 2002 11:02 pm

Tool are the master's off making little thing's big, (that include'e the enginer's they work with as well. They use layer's very effectivly, sometime's even unoticed the most. What sound's like one guitar track, may actually be several well crafted and placed layer's of guitar track's. If any of you have listened to Dream Theatre, (John Petrucci and several of the finest progresive musician's on the face of the planet) you have heard the layering of track's. John is one of the finest technical player's on the face of the planet, and their recorded work's are full of the well crafted layer's of sound.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 06, 2002 03:14 am

a method i use in my recordings when i need a heavy sound. i use 1 guitar track dead center and 2 panned to each ear. this gives a really juicy thick distortion, during my choruses. check out this recording at. www.mp3.com/theweedgroup

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 06, 2002 10:28 am

Yes, I use the multi-layered method often myself, it works great for bringing out some power in the guitar tracks, I don't use it for bass much, but the bass I am beginning to record from two different sources now, one from a DI box (like the POD) and one from a mic in front of an amp, they blend well and add to the power pretty nicely. As soon as Noize2u gets his order together for AMT Microphones (*hint, hint, nudge, nudge*) I am getting a bass mic to clamp right on the bass itself to record the string and fingering noize...that will be totally cool.

P.S. John Petrucci uses AMT mics :-)

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


May 06, 2002 04:28 pm

Yeah I love John Petruci. The solos he was able to do during the Once in a Livetime show were great, and he's a very talented player, and their engineer is also very good with the layering.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 06, 2002 07:38 pm

Yes indeed, he, they are an incredible band to watch and listen to. Even at my age, he has a great influance on me.

If you want dB, we can oreder them next week. I know you want them for your birthday present.

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Since: Apr 06, 2002


May 07, 2002 11:56 am

I heard of Dream Theatre a while back, but never listened to any of their stuff, but I love Tool and Aenema is a GREAT album!

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