Drums - What do you use?
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Posted on Jan 10, 2005 05:14 am
Bleak
A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004
I just wanted to get an idea of what you guys use for drums - Those of you that dont actually use real drums that is :)
I've been using FL studio and playing around with an Alesis S-16 but i'm intersted to know what you guys do for best results.
e.g - do you design from scratch or use loops - or both. that sort of thing.
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HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jan 10, 2005 05:31 am Morning, Bleak . heh
Been messing with Fruity Loops a bit lately as well, but we've used a Boss Dr770 for the last couple of years, and hand drums of all sorts . Just got a set of tubs for the studio though, so hopefully we'll be using those for recording purposes soon enough .
That 'lil roll at the start of Zombie Killaz' was done on the set, with one mic pointed over the shoulder of the drummer and the 770 took over for the rest of it . hee hee
Jan 10, 2005 05:43 am I usually use the sounds On my yamaha s90 synth
And play the drums in real time with my track
Great sounds on it btw
Jan 10, 2005 12:41 pm i'm assuming we're not talkin' about micing...i love Reasons drum machine, also their advanced sampler has some killer "real" drum sounds, all multi-layred and what not. i have a drumming background and have since mastered the art of playin' a drumkit with my fingers!! i'm gonna sample some of my kits that i have access to one of these days. my father collects drums (we have a drum store) so we got tons of good stuff DW 25 & 30th annaversary as well as Timless Timber, a few Gretches and about 20k of top of the line snares....not tryin' to brag, but i've just gotta sample them!!
peace
wyd
Jan 10, 2005 05:54 pm I use Beta Monkey Music Drums they make CD's to suite your genre and all the files are categorised by BPM and include enless loops,fills and single hits. they are very easy to work with in wavelab and very cheap. and sound very professional beacuse they are all recorded acoustically and dry so you can put whatever effects on as you want? Anyone else use them? I dicovered them on ebay!!
www.betamonkeymusic.com
If youre interested, they have sample songs and stuff there!
PS i don't work for them! Just letting other enthusiasts know!
Let me know what you think!
Steve
Jan 10, 2005 06:03 pm Native Instruments Battery 2...it's the bomb!
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Jan 10, 2005 07:48 pm Thanks for all the replys. It's interesting to know what others use.
Do you all split the tracks when you import to your mulittracker?
I do from FL studio but if i use the s-16 it's only one track!
Jan 10, 2005 07:55 pm With Battery 2 it's sequenced right in Sonar as a CSTi with which I can add, edit, pan, change volume, apply effects and more right in the app without ever having to go thru the import/export hassle. Battery also comes with over 4gigs of drum kits and percussions sounds as well...it's the bomb, the best drum machine I have ever had the pleasure of working with.
Jan 10, 2005 08:23 pm I use FL and export each drum as a seperate track and I put some 'verb on the master outs so they act as room mics.
Jan 10, 2005 11:48 pm db i thought you used project5. what happened?
Jan 10, 2005 11:58 pm ^^^ he does for synths
Jan 11, 2005 08:24 am I used Velocity in Project5, still do for the songs I haven't migrated yet. Project5 still Rocks, Velocity is a great drum machine...Battery 2 is just exponentially better. After I got to take a look at it for the review, I had to have it.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Jan 11, 2005 09:45 am db - How goes B2 compare to 'the drum kit from hell' ?
Jan 11, 2005 09:49 am I dunno, never used DKFH.
SonicoMember
Since: Apr 19, 2002
Jan 11, 2005 11:48 am My drum tools are:
MusicLab´s Slicy Drummer and Fill-in drummer running inside Sonar 3 PE. After the sequence is finished, I run Battery (version 1) with Drum Kit From Hell as a VST Instrument with 4 Outputs for Kick, Snare, Toms and Cymbals and apply compression, eq and effects individually. Then convert to audio and finnaly run the DKFH with room samples and convert to audio and mix with everything else.
Jan 16, 2005 10:53 am If I got a sampled drumloop I take it in the phatmatikPro Slicer and then drop it right into Kontakt, to frickle around with the chopped thang.
Or I use Drum Sample Libraries and load them either in Halion or Kontakt.
Or I just use Oneshot Drumsamples of my own collection and - guess what - I put em into Kontakt (The Browser just works more efficiently than the one of halion)
Sometimes I put them through my Akai S950 for the dirrrtyness of the sound (sounds a bit different to just bitcrushing them)
I haven't got Battery I must tell
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Jan 16, 2005 11:17 am I use the Roland TD6V module. I use both as just samples, and on the songs I can I actually play the kit attached to it. :)
Dan
SteveKMember
Since: Dec 16, 2004
Jan 16, 2005 03:13 pm I'm using Steinberg's Groove Agent, and honestly it's the easiest drum machine/program I've ever used. Many different kits, beats, and feels. You can go from a 50's kit playing a rhumba beat to an 80's kit playing rock in real time without missing a beat or changing tempo. Cutting to 1/2 time and/or adding a random fill is just a virtual push button away. Even my drummer was impressed with the sounds and "non-drum-machine" feel that this program has. Check it out...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 16, 2005 03:27 pm Well, I have the same module as OD as well as an Alesis DM5, and about 30 or so odd drum sytnhs and beat making programs. Sonar has installs a program like Groove agent as well, and you simply pick and choose the drums types and styles the same as GA does.
All my other synths have differant drum samples as well so I am never lacking for differant drum sounds.
That not counting all the differant samplers with drum banks as well.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Jan 16, 2005 07:11 pm I'll grab some demo's of Groove agent and Battery 2 i think.
I'm suprised not many people use FL Studio, quite intuitive (to a point) and fairly powerful from what i've seen!
ciinxMember
Since: May 15, 2004
Jan 17, 2005 05:11 am I choose FL over Reason for its user friendly settings; mainly used for complex drumming songs. But if I just need to finish a simple song, I can spend some time switching Reason's arrow or write buttons.
Jan 17, 2005 06:58 am I design most beats in an old version of Cakewalk Pro Audio (PA9) and then import this into Cubase where I do all my tracking.
Then I use the sounds in my ZoomRT123 with this midi file of the drums, record it back in and apply effects as required.
Either that, or just program the zoom tho the quality of my midi beats is far better (and I can save it) the zooms memory is rubbish...
Cheers
Coco.
Jan 17, 2005 12:55 pm Coco,
I have a similar set-up as you with regards the drums ie, Zoom RT123 into a Delta 44 and use Cubase as a drum edit tool, as you suggested in an earlier thread. This I then record back into Cool Edit and it works very well. Can I ask whether you record all of the various drums onto one stereo track or do you separate each individual drum onto it's own track to give you that extra bit of versatility on mixing?
Jan 17, 2005 01:38 pm Jeezuz you guys make it hard.
Open Sonar, add Battery or Porject5's Velocity and sequence it right there with full MIDI messaging capability, no exporting, importing, doing this that and the other.
Just open, insert and rock out...it's like you guys work for the gov't or something, ya take something so simple and complicate it :-)
Jan 17, 2005 02:00 pm I dont seperate the tracks Dominic - I just mix all drums to one..thats enuff drummin for me bud!
dB - I could actually do it all in Cubase but I love the simplicity of Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. I could do it all in Cakewalk but I prefer to have all my audiio recorded in Cubase...
So, I get the best of both worlds...I Guess its a little tedious but for the amount of tracks I do, its no too bad.
P.S. Im watching you!! (work for government)...hehehe...and I'll speakin to your IRS pals...hehehe.
Adios
Coco (the spy for fbi) hehe
