Help with mixers, please .

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Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
Member Since: Apr 11, 2004

I just got the digital mixer back from the repair shop, and was considering a few options that have become available to me while it was out . Specifically: automating a multitrack ap with it . Is there anything outside of setting the sample rate/channel/MTC of each device, and assigning the I/Os that I should be aware of ?
Also...
The pres on the Tascam TM-D1000 digital mixer are yuck, so I wanted to use the UB2442s instead, but which way to hook 'em up ? Are there any benefits to using the direct outs of the Uli, to get there, or should I sub it ? I'm thinking the subs are the way to go, just for the flexability factor, but I dunno . I wanted to ask around here before I picked up the cables .
I'm thinking that if this all works, things are going to get pretty interesting at the mixdown stage... so any help towards achieving this would be a beautiful thing ! 8 )

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Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Jan 05, 2005 01:26 am

Hey Hue! Great to see you around again..Thought we lost ya.

Man I looked all over just now and can find nothing on the Tascam. So I appologize, but I just can't help at all on the automation.

On using the UB's pres, I would use the direct outs. Theory = less signal path (circuitry from the channel fader to the sub outs) to induce noise. Not that the UB is noisy, just less to go through. By the same token, you could do more premixing with the UB by using the sub outs, as you mentioned flexability. If the Tascam has channel inserts, you can go directly from the UB direct outs into the inserts of the Tascam (modified jacks of course) and illiminate the entire pre=amp section of the Tascam.

Just thoughts.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jan 05, 2005 02:26 am

heh heh Yeah, that mixer is kind'a one of Tascams weirdos... [stamp]'discontinued'[/stamp] .

The Tascam's manual is fairly explicite when it comes to its end of it... I just don't want to miss that left-turn at Albuquerque, so to speak . Good advice on the direct-outs, cleaner is better, though this strange bird of a mixer has only four inserts on it's eight channels... man, it's a weird one ! It does have some cool features, though :(from op manual)

"For more in-depth coverage of automation, all of the mixer functions have been assigned a MIDI parameter . Parameter change info is sent whenever you change something on the mixer. (i.e. move a fader, sweep an eq, change the delay, etc...) Simply have your sequencer recording when you change the parameter ..."

and

"The TM-D1000 can act as a remote control for multitracks, sequencers, etc . The bussing function buttons, CH select buttons, and mute buttons can double as MIDI machine control buttons . Simply press SHIFT, and the buss function keys become basic transport controls: play, stop, fast-forward, rewind and record . The CH select buttons double to give you 16 locate points !!! Plus, the MUTE buttons double as track record arm/disarm buttons . "

More weird : It has enough controls for 16 channels, but only 8 inputs, and out of those only 4 have XLRs and inserts . It's super geared for use with DAT, with the TDIF jive-action . Very un-user friendly set-up, yet gracefully designed... if that makes sense ? Hell, it's just weird all-over . lol

Nice weather, eh Walt ?

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Jan 05, 2005 03:06 am

LoL, that is a stich! One odd bird for sure. But as you noted a very cool board all the same. On the control surface issue, with Cubase it was a simple matter of assigning midi control to the device. Cubase found the device per it's driver just the same as Cubase would find a sound card.

The weather.... Sandy is liking it. Hoping like heck it cancels school tomorrow for her. Me, well, I chose to live here, and well, this is what it does. Snow and sub zero for xmas, Rain and 40's for new years. Why not have 12 foot of snow a couple days later? I don't store many cloths anymore.

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jan 05, 2005 03:30 am

Cubase is an ap I have yet to get into, in any amount of depth... sounds quite mint, though . The only MIDI that is associated with Cakewalks GTP3, is strictly for automation, and or external linking... no 'music' recording . So, I'm going to guess that there will be a similar 'response' from the ap, when I mess with it this weekend . Thannks for the heads-up, there .

LOL Yeah, it is pretty cool how our weather is so fickle... keeps one on their toes . heh

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jan 05, 2005 09:23 pm

Woo-hoo ! I couldn't wait for the weekend, and ended up messing with this thing today, and I must say, matched up with the DAW this thing is amazing !!! CWGTP3 recognized it right away, and the way that ap is set-up, it was almost too easy to asign all the necesary parameters to the controls on the mixer . So, I'm thinking our 'middle' of the gear-line, is pretty complete in the sense that there's nowhere else to go, without replacing what we have with 'better' of the same . I'm truely stoked, as we've been using this thing for two years, and without the current recording set-up never fully realized it's potential... it feels like getting really cool NEW gear ! 8 )

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Jan 05, 2005 09:34 pm

Congradulations Hue!!!

Man, I gotta agree whenever I discover something new I can do it's like 'new toys' all around!

Ya gotta love it!

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jan 05, 2005 09:47 pm

Too true, Walt ! Goodbye mouse, it's been real, eh... real UN-real ! heh Woot !

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