New here, but i come with problems!

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Member Since: Dec 07, 2004

Hey guys, i'm new at this forum, but i've been recording on my computer for about 2 years. I've been using a stupid 1/4-1/8 adapter, but have just recently moved into real stuff, buying a Delta 44.

This card is great, but im having some problems with my Cool Edit Pro 2.0. It's fine when i am running 1 or 2 tracks, but when i start to get up there (5, 6 tracks even), it glitches pretty badly during playback (Even worse when recording). I've tried mixing down to one file, and muting the rest, but it still slows down. I'm wondering if you guys know any tricks to speed up the program. Are there options i could have turned off?

Im running Windows 2000 Pro, 1.3ghz P4, 512MB ram. It seems it should run alright, but i get that slow down every time. Thanks for the help, hopefully i can contribute more than boring questions in the future

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 07, 2004 03:39 pm

XP performs better with multimedia applications such as we use. Your PC seems decent enough, prehaps more ram would be useful.

What driver types does Cool Edit use? Can you use WDM, ASIO or MME? If CEP allows ASIO, use it, M-Audio ASIO support is better than their WDM...or so most people have found, regardless, trying a different driver type is always a good troubleshooting tactic.

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2004


Dec 07, 2004 03:40 pm

Holy cow that was quick! Unfortunatly, my memory bank is full, but i will try setting my Cool Edit tp AISO.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 07, 2004 03:44 pm

Hopefully CEP allows ASIO, I am not sure if it does or not.

Good luck

bace135 in the house tonight!
Member
Since: Jan 28, 2003


Dec 07, 2004 05:41 pm

um, first off, make sure there aren't other programs open/running when you record playback in Cool Edit. Also, if you have effects on the various tracks, those can eat up memory super quick (especially the delay effects). Also, if you have any tracks in stereo that don't need to be, you can convert to mono for added performance. You can lock your effects on tracks your not messing with. This may take a couple moments, but is worth it to have uninterrupted playback.

Also, I'm pretty sure that even if a track is muted, Cool Edit still processes that track, so you mixing down and muting actually makes the problem worse! You'd have to mix down and remove the wavs from the multitrack session.

Just to note I have a 2.3 GHz processor, and 640 RAM and able to run like 40 tracks or so (sometimes more) in Cool Edit when I lock the effects on all of them (though admittedly they're not all playing at the exact same time).

yes yes, and welcome to HRC!

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2004


Dec 08, 2004 02:17 pm

Well, i do all me effects directly to the WAV file in the editor, i never use the in-track effects. I guess i'll just have to be conservative.



On another note (Sorry for all these crap questions). I recorded something in 96000 after i installed my Delta 44. When i went back to my older files (in 41100), all the wavs were messed up. They are sped up a TON, and static as hell. Have i corrupted the files by changing my rate, or is there a way to save what i have?! The files load fine, in the right order, but the actual wavs have gone to craps.

Thanks again for some help

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 08, 2004 02:18 pm

Some apps and card don't mix sample rates well from file to file, track to track and such. Perhaps, set it back to 44 and convert them...

Jack of all trades master of ___
Member
Since: May 28, 2004


Dec 08, 2004 02:55 pm

I am baffled...

I run P2 350MHz...I had a song going using 12 tracks on Cool Edit/Audition and never had problems...

Although whne I process effects and things of those nature is goes slower than usuall...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Dec 08, 2004 02:59 pm

effects are what uses the most processing power, especially reverb, chorus and effects like that...

Member
Since: Dec 07, 2004


Dec 08, 2004 04:49 pm

So even though i do the effects directly to the wav file, it still slows them down? BTW, this particular song is also the one i recorded inb 96000, which could be slowing it down also, but i know i've had a couple 44110 tracks slow down too



About the corrupt files, when i open Cool Edit, and select that session, it automatically changed back to a 41100, so i dont really know how to convert them.

bace135 in the house tonight!
Member
Since: Jan 28, 2003


Dec 08, 2004 10:10 pm

hmmm, don't know about the sample rate stuff. But I don't think you should be having playback problems while playing back only 4 or 5 tracks. If you throw effects on the wav files in the wav editor, it shouldn't effect performance in the multitracker. Also, are all your files stereo? If so, do they need to be? And, do you have other programs up and running (maybe in the background) while you are tracking?

Member
Since: Jan 18, 2003


Dec 09, 2004 01:41 am

how is your soundcard buffer set? i heard that if it's too large, it can cause pops and other things

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Dec 09, 2004 09:39 am

If CEP is like n-track, you may not be able to have 2 sampling rates in one project. I go back and forth between 44.1 and 48 kinda often, and keep having to set the sampling rate before opening a file. See if you can set the sampling rate in CEP to match the track's rate BEFORE you open the track. Once it's open, see if you can convert it to what you want.

Also, I would say the PC would have to work much harder to process a 96k file compared to a 44.1k file. The processor would have to work more than twice as many cycles to have the same rate of playback.

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