Nov 29, 2004 11:38 pm 'Sallright... here y'a go :
www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=146
There's lots of answers in the Recording Tips section . Highly deffinative, recomended reading .
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Posted on Nov 29, 2004 11:20 pm
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rather than asking my original question (multiple interfaces)
let's try this
if i had a Midi keyboard/controller and Yamaha's
01x how does it all circulate?
this is where im stumped forgive me if sound clueless ( I am )
but if the monitors are hooked up to my mixer wich is connected to my PC
and my keyboard is hooked up to my PC
does or how does the sound get threw to my speakers?
or is my mixer acting as a sound card in general and even if a played a song in windows media player it play out my monitors?
iam really having a hard time grasping how this works because i have no previous experience in the area if i sounded stupid im sorry im not stupid quite intelligent actually not the best speller though lol i am also sorry if i offended anyone im just trying to learn and am getting off to a bad start
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Nov 29, 2004 11:38 pm 'Sallright... here y'a go :
www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=146
There's lots of answers in the Recording Tips section . Highly deffinative, recomended reading .
Nov 29, 2004 11:43 pm ok, let's go with a new start and try this again.
First off, there are a few different correct answeres here. The different answer somewhat depends on the destination of your midi data. Are you going to be using sounds that are within your keyboard, or are you going to be using sounds that are within your computer or other synths? If the sounds reside within your keyboard, you will send audio from your keyboard either through your mixer or directly to your soundcard. Your case is special cuz the Yamaha O1x is not your standard mixer as it also can be used as a surface controller for your software. You can connect your monitors to the output of your soundcard, and play anything that you play on your computer.
Another question is: do you plan on recording anything other than the midi keyboard, and if so what? Assuming you are not, and assuming the sounds are already in your keyboard, I would connect in the following way.
keyboard (audio) -> soundcard in
soundcard out -> monitors (or amp if you are using passive monitors)
And I would just use the Yamaho 01x as a control surface to control my software, and mix entirely in my software.
Does that make sense? This way, your monitors will play back anything that you do on your keyboard, plus anything else you play on your computer.
Nov 30, 2004 12:08 am I can't tell for sure, but I am guessing that the disconnect has to do with midi. Midi is not sound. If you hook your keyboard to your computer via midi, you are not sending sound to your computer from the keyboard. You are sending instructions to include: Note value (C,D,E,....) Note length, note volume. No sound has been attached to these instructions. You need a synthisizer. This is a sophisticated tone generator that will take the information from your keyboard and generate a sound. Now this is where I fall apart. I don't work with midi except to create sheet music from playing music into my computer via a keyboard. I have software that will recognize midi commands sent from a keyboard and translate them to notes on a page. I know there are software synthisizers that will work within Windows to create sounds. Now how you output those sounds from your computer through the sound card, and loop them back into recording software on your computer, I have no idea. If I want to record sound from my keyboard, I use the synthisizer in my keyboard and output the sound from the line outs of my keyboard into my soundcard line inputs via a mixer.
Hope you get through this. Midi is my nymisis. Too many things to futz with.
Nov 30, 2004 12:16 am Thank you 4 your advice
Heres my situation my keyboard has no sounds in it
it's for accessing the sounds within my software synths,samplers and what not
and the 01x is not only a daw controller and a standard mixer but it also has an 24-bit/96kHs audio interface there for eleminating the need for a sound card it also has multi MIDI ins and outs and mic pre's and built in effects awsome hey
anyway I guess this was the HUGE part i was missing in my quest for finding answers
so i figure my monitors will be hooked to my mixer but then where does the keyboard plugin usb, fire wire, MIDI ????
you know what I mean? if I pug it in usb to my PC how the sound going to get to my mixer and out my speakers?
Any further input would be greatly appreciated
Nov 30, 2004 12:25 am if i pug it in usb???? I cant stop laughing
Nov 30, 2004 12:51 am Well, I guess if I were as frustrated as you at this moment, I would be pugging things here and there as well. I think you have the pugging of the monitors down. I use a USB 428 which is somewhat similar to your unit from what I gather in your posts. It acts as a control surface via midi (that acronym again) commands, a mixer with pre amps and a sound card. It has midi ins and outs. The midi ins will allow me to plug my keyboard into the 428 which then converts those commands to USB encoding and transmitts them to the computer. I can also send midi commands out of my computer via USB to the 428 and hook up the midi out jack of the 428 to a synth and make sound. Beyond that I can only empthisize. I would like to use my puter as a synth sometimes but I simply don't know how. The learning curve to midi is very confusing to me too.
Nov 30, 2004 01:02 am You guys are great thanx a bunch im sure the info you provided me will help me in the near future
greatly appriecated
Nov 30, 2004 01:31 am ok, well, to determine where the keyboard goes, will depend on the keyboard. If you get something like the m-audio radium 49, it connects directly to a usb port, and sends midi through the usb connection. If you get/have a keyboard controller that does not do that nifty USB trick, plug the midi cable into the yamaha mixer thingy, and apparently it will transmit the midi to your computer. I'm sure this yamaha gizmo will have drivers which you will install on your computer, so that your computer recognizes it and cooperates with it. Once you have installed the drivers, you will need to select your midi source inside your programs that are running the soft synths (which is now the yamaha). Then your program will read your midi data, and translate that data into audio which will be output by your soundcard (in this case your yamaha swiss army knife) and then to a pair of monitors. Hmmm, within your software program that is running the softsynths and such, you will have to tell it where to ouput audio (or possibly within windows audio controls) so that it knows to send the audio to your yamaheezee.
Once again, I hope this makes sense.
Nov 30, 2004 02:00 am Quote: "you know what I mean? if I pug it in usb to my PC how the sound going to get to my mixer and out my speakers?"
Ok, Im going to opt for the easy answer here. Once you've got all the routing of sound done in your computer, you plug the output of your soundcard into the tape ins on your mixer. Voila, the sound leaves your computer, into your mixer via the tape ins, and out through your monitors. I'm still unclear what you are asking, but if this aint what you want to know, I hope you get the help you need.
Nov 30, 2004 08:31 pm thanks again i understand everything i needed to know now
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