Recording Bass

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Member Since: Aug 26, 2004

I have been using a keyboard to record a bass line but most of the VST plugins are pretty ordinary when it comes to bass i have found, and would prefer to actually record using a bass!

My query is - I have a Behringer V-amp Pro and was wondering if i could use this for a bass?

Is that damaging to the unit? I'd rather not blow it up!

I know there is a model for bass but i've spent enough dag nammit!

alternitivly can i just direct line it into the mixer?

Cheers

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Oct 27, 2004 09:07 pm

i use my guitar POD for bass. i'm still alive. go for it!

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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Oct 27, 2004 09:30 pm

I think that you can use just about any preamp to DI a bass into your recording setup. The Vamp serves as a preamp, so have at it! It might not be the best solution since the V-amp (and other guitar modelers) probably has a frequency response that is intended to flatter a guitar and not a bass, but I don't think that any harm will come of it.

If you don't care about using the effects, then try whatever other preamps you have lying around.

Alternatively, I think that SansAmp makes a DI box that, for a meager price (I think around $30 or $40) gives a DI sound that folks around here rave about.

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Since: Jan 18, 2003


Oct 27, 2004 09:57 pm

my bass sounds ok in the POD. just turn up the bass knob and shapre your sound with those tone controls, and choose a suitable amp model and a cab that has good bass response.


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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 27, 2004 10:03 pm

Cheers for that! I dont really care about the effects (though i will experiament) so i may try the pre-amp in the mixer or the sound card (delta 1010).

If i want some effects i'll jump on the v-amp!

Thanks again guys!

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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Oct 31, 2004 06:06 am

ive got my own bass plug in which i could upload if ya like, its called the Flame Music Bass Module, nice and simple, no settings, just load er up and away ya go...

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Since: Jan 12, 2004


Oct 31, 2004 07:30 am

Cool Flame...I wouldnae mind checkin that oot too.

Bleak - I use my bass/vamp combination and its fine. In fact, I recommend using the preset called "UNDER THE BRIDGE" - its meant for Chillis sounds but I record ALL my basslines using it and its fine.

Also, get the free software from Berhinger and link it up via MIDI then you control the VAMP via the PC - very cool.

Good luck

Coco.

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Since: May 30, 2002


Oct 31, 2004 05:03 pm

I record bass through my PODxt mostly using the Bassman model, it was originally designed as a bass amp (the real amp, not the modeller).

I find it sounds pretty good after some tweaking, I also like the Tweed models.

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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Oct 31, 2004 09:12 pm

Flame - i would definately be intersted in that one - let me know what i need to do!

Coco - there is so much more i could be using the v-amp for! ive been slack and have just been using the presets for guitar! i'm keen to get the midi happening so i can downlaod stuff.

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Since: Jan 12, 2004


Nov 01, 2004 04:10 pm

Aye, go for it bleak. All you need is a midi connection (I got an M-Audio midi sport 1x1 - 1 in and 1 out) connect that to the USB, the midis to the VAMP and away yi go. 50 done the job...

Then, just download the free app from Behringer and you control the VAMP right there on screen. Use drop downs to make some AWESOME amps right there on your pc...great.

Coco.

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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Nov 01, 2004 04:38 pm

Hey Bleak, I've previously recorded my bass direct through the mixer and into my soundcard. Only problem with this is that it was somewhat hard to hear what sound the bass was making, but it recorded well. Now, my amp has a pre amp out which I send through so I can hear the amp as I'm recording.

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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Nov 03, 2004 05:14 pm

Sorry about the lateness of my reply! We had a big horse race here in Australia and i'm still recovering :)

Coco! i'll get right onto that one - i didnt know you could use an app to control it! awsome! The v-amp pro has MIDI built it so its just a matter of buying the cords!

My mixer has a couple of pre-amps too so that an alternative! Guess i had heaps more options thn i thought!

Cheers again to everyone on this one!


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Since: Aug 26, 2004


Nov 03, 2004 07:54 pm

Sorry i should mentioned that My Sound card (delta 1010lt) has midi connections also!

Does this mean i wont need a USB adapter?

I only have one other MIDI device (M-audio Keystaion pro 88) which has USB.


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Since: Jul 23, 2004


Nov 08, 2004 01:15 pm

I am by no means an expert.. and I just had a few glasses of wine at lunch.. but my two cents worth is this: bass guitar tone/timbre will change as you add other instrument "voices".. at least this is my experience. I have spent alot of time "getting my tone" through pre's and eq.. but after all is recorded.. somehow the bass tone just doesn't have the same feeling as it did by itself. So my advice would be to use a setup that allows you to input multiple bass tracks. Keep one dry! And fold in the affected/eq'd version as needed. I myself use stereo basses (Rickenbackers).. so I can run a signal from the forward (or neck pickup) and one from the rear (closer to the bridge) pickup... then I can still run an unaffected line from my preamp bypass. With three bass tracks recorded in one performance I maximize my tone options after all is recorded. At key points for the bass lines I can bring up the overdrive or warmer tones.. then drop them out for verses etc.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 08, 2004 01:17 pm

Vamp Pro has a neat feature (at least the Bass Vamp pro does) that allows the outputs to seperate the stereo outs into one dry and one wet with the sims and effects. I would use the Vamp and see how it does.

Use the stereo outs, set to one dry and one wet, record it to two different track and mix to taste.

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Since: Jan 12, 2004


Nov 08, 2004 01:49 pm

This is also possible using the regular VAMP2 (guitar version).

I think there are 5 settings S1-S5 - for different configs as dB says but its defo poss.

Good plan.

Coco.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 08, 2004 01:53 pm

Oh really? I thought that was a pro-only option...the routing is where Pro really blows past the cute little guitar-shaped ones. I have like 15 different outputs jacks and routing options on the back of my Bass Vamp Pro.

Regardless, it's a great option, give it a try.

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Since: Jan 12, 2004


Nov 09, 2004 07:00 am

Aye..it allows you to send the left channel in one way and the right in another and these are numbered from S1-S5 (I think). I know there is an S1, Im sure there are 5 options...

All optimised for say live, studio, practice, etc. The Behringer manual as usual is spot on and explains it well i.e. S1 will be left dry - right fx etc etc...VAMP2 is great for the cash I paid - 99!! However, I must admit, I never changed it - I just stick the both channels into the Delta44 and record it!!

Still...nice for the bucks.

Coco.

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Since: Jul 23, 2004


Nov 10, 2004 08:47 am

www.prorec.com/prorec/art...625665000797D4D

This is an interesting article on recording bass

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 10, 2004 08:49 am

plug in, turn on, arm the track and rock out.

end of article :-)

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