aux sends, sub outs, and buses

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Member Since: Sep 26, 2004

I was wondering what, if anything, is the difference between an aux send and a bus or sub out.
more importantly, can i assign channels of the mixer to the aux sends--like you can with a bus or sub out? also, sub outs and buses are the same thing right?

i ask this because im planning on buying a 2 input audiophile 2496($99) and this mixer: www.behringer.com/MXB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG ($99) and i want to be sure i can assign drums (3 mics) and instruments (2 mics) to seperate outs and then send those signals to be recorded on two seperate mono tracks on the comp.

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Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Oct 18, 2004 08:24 am

Sorry to say I can see the possibility of only four mono output channels from this mixer. It is hard to tell as I read the manual provided online and the manual does not provide pictures (I Yikes Pigures) of the jacks , knobes etc.

It looks as if you could squeeze two mono outs by using the inserts on channels one and two and not using the return function of the inserts. Channels three and four could then be gathered from the main outs.

Judging strickly from your questions, it would not appear that squeezing the first two previously mentioned insert points as outputs would be easly achieved.

Termonology in mixer choosing: Sorry to say that technical writers and marketers have become quite sloppy in describing equipement well. I somehow preceive this as intentional as gear now comes with many more bullet points than functional abilities.

The buss: "Get on the buss forget about us" is akin to it's physical counterpart the cattle car found on roads, is an electrical path that carries multiple signals from one point to another. A buss does not necessaraly leave the mixer. Sometimes a bus is used as a syninum (there's a spelling treasure) for a sub channel or group channel; not always.

The sub or group out. Very much like a main out. You can assign individual channels to a sub or group out and directly to a recorder.

Sends and returns: These are generaly "taps" off of a channel. The origional signal continues to travel down the mixer channel while a taped or parallel signal is sent to an outside processor e.g. reverb unit and returned to mix with the origional signal of the channel.

Inserts: Much like it's sibling the send and return, it sends a signal out of the mixer to a processor and then is returned. The difference is that the signal is not taped. The returned signal then continues to travel down the channel. This is a serial signal path not parallel.

Now having babbled way too much, the bottom line is to do just what you are doing. Research, look carefully at the pigures and try to make sense of them in regard to the bullet points, ask questions here, read the glossory here to help with technical definitions, drink beer, start over.

Disclaimer: (this should be in a 2 point font) The above mention of "beer" in no means indicates that the author of this post advocates the use of intoxicating beverages in the learning process. The reference is strickly to infer any legal, and healthy methodlolgy of coping with stress. Substitutions such as psychotheropy should be administered for those under the leagal age or those haveing adverse effects to such beverages. The author in no way infers responsibility for subsiquent destruction of equipement in the event that stress relief methodologies fail.)

Member
Since: Sep 26, 2004


Oct 18, 2004 07:03 pm

haha, thanks for your help.

doesnt that mixer have 5 ins?

also, could i just use the tape out, for convinience since the 2496 is rca, and then just pan certain channels to the left or right?

and also, for my price range it really comes down to that mixer and this one: www.behringer.com/UB1202/index.cfm?lang=ENG . does either offer any advantages?

and when they say 2-bus, do they really mean a left and right main out? cuz both have L and R main and tape outs but only the later one advertises itself as "2-bus" and i couldnt really see any extra outs on the second mixer.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 18, 2004 07:36 pm

the first mixer you mentioned has 3 monos and 2 stereo inputs.

The second one has more inputs and better preamps (the UB series has better pres than the others)

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