The Grey Album - revolutionary or wrong?

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...bringing sexy back
Member Since: Jul 01, 2002

dj dangermouse has risen to fame recently with hhis splicing of the beatles white album and jay-z's black album to make the grey album.

the music side of it is made completely of sampled beatles tunes and nothing else. just beatles beats, drums, noises. ovre the top is raps by jay-z.

EMI blocked its release as the samples werent approved, but its hit a million downloads already - which woulda been big money in sales had it been marketed by the record companies.

people say that you shouldnt sample the beatles, and theres the obvious legal issues with ripping off a whole album to make a new one, but i think its an important development in pop usic, demonstrating the power of the internet and making a brave statement by mixing the sacred cow that is the beatles

anyone take serious offence to this, or have any thoughts on it at all

id be interested to hear what the remaining beatles say about it...

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Freeleance Producer/Engineer/Gtr
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Mar 16, 2004 09:38 am

well i haven't heard it myself but it would've been a great project to be a part of. especially if everything works together nicely.

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Since: Jul 02, 2003


Mar 16, 2004 09:53 am

Well had he licensed the use it would have been fine. Also just because a million people downloaded it doesn't mean it would have been a commercial success. :)

...bringing sexy back
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Mar 16, 2004 09:59 am

well thats very true od, but the media hype aronud it pre-banning was pretty mad here, and pre-release copies of it are selling for silly money now aparently on ebay...

NME gave it 10/10 as an album nd dedicated 5 pages to it in this weeks magazine, which is pretty amazing if nothing else i reckon

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Mar 16, 2004 12:51 pm

I'd have preferred it if he used the Damned's Black album... Still, it's a funny concept, pretty cool really. The main point for me here is that the Beatles, much as I like some of their stuff, have turned into a reprehensible business enterprise. For those supposedly moral and idealistic musicians to sit by and do nothing while their records continue to sell for upwards of 15 a pop 30 years on (never once having been lowered to mid-price), and to willingly take part in a book selling for 30, despite being enormously powerful and wealthy already, is completely lame. Anything that serves to stick two fingers up at such paranoid, megalomaniac behaviour is fine by me. That's why I called my last album 'The Beatles'.

bace135 in the house tonight!
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Mar 16, 2004 03:12 pm

From an artistic point of view, I think it is great. It is interesting, new, quality music! If EMI doesn't want to clear the using of the beatles samples, then so what, there won't be any commercial success for anyone. But new music was made and there are people enjoying it. I don't really see anything wrong with that.

By the way, another producer here in the US, who goes by the name "no" or "know" who makes beats for a rap group called Cunning Linguists made his own beats and layered Jay Z's black album on top of it and called it the white album. In my personal opinion, it is much better than Danger Mouses grey album.

I think this may start a trend, of rappers (or any artists for that matter) releasing vocal only versions of their albums to let creative beat makers remix and mash up their songs to get more publicity.

Cone Poker
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Mar 16, 2004 06:05 pm

At least it wasn't Micheal Jackson.

Czar of Midi
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Mar 16, 2004 06:31 pm

I will wait till I hear something from it. Ya gotta figure it this way. The world went ape**** over the use of Revolution in a commercial.

And think about how many times the Beatles have been sampled really, I can twist a sample into unrecognizable mush with the twist of a knob. So who is to say millions allready havent?

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Mar 18, 2004 05:15 am

very true...

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